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Voyager season 4

If you don't post a season 5 thread, we'll probably post one for you:)
Go for it, if I don't get to it in a few days... I'm getting busier at work, as I imagine others are (work, school, whatever). Still faithfully watching the show, just less time to post now.

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[...] This was a good Chakotay episode though, might be my third fav behind Distant Origin and Unity so far in the series. And, man, I would have traded places with Madsen in a nanosecond on that bio-bed! :drool: [...]
Be sure, you aren`t alone, cosmic mouse . ;) There`s a quote from Virginia Madsen herself, where she`s talking, that she had a serious, serious crash on Robert Beltran while filming "Unforgettable". Can`t watch the episode without thinking about this. ;);) Too bad I can`t remember the link. It was called "Catching up with Virginia Madsen" ( I think)
 
Be sure, you aren`t alone, cosmic mouse . ;) There`s a quote from Virginia Madsen herself, where she`s talking, that she had a serious, serious crash on Robert Beltran while filming "Unforgettable". Can`t watch the episode without thinking about this. ;);) Too bad I can`t remember the link. It was called "Catching up with Virginia Madsen" ( I think)
Spot on with the title, Mareika... I just did a quick google search and voila!

http://www.startrek.com/article/catching-up-with-voyager-guest-virginia-madsen

:)
 
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if it weren't for Chak's gorgeous...mmmm...everything, then I might agree. ;)
LOL, I never found him attractive so.....

the episode overall is one that I always skip in my rewatches. The only reason i've seen it recently is because I was going through the whole series with my boyfriend who was watching for the first time.

I know that in a fiction show they make stuff up and there is a certain amount of suspension of belief. But the idea of a species that secretes some kind of stuff that affects people's memories is too much for me. I guess it does some character exploration for Chakotay but all in all NOTHING happens in this episode. At the end they all forget and move on. I wonder though if one day in the future Chuckles finds that hand written log and what his thoughts are about it.
 
Yeah I get that, but I've always felt that Year of Hell woudl have been a better season finale. Ending the season with an order to abandon ship would have been awesome

I believe that was the original plan -- following up Before and After with something YOHish.

However, then the Borg came and they showed me that if there is one constant in this universe, it's the Borg increase ratings.
 
LOL, I never found him attractive so.....

the episode overall is one that I always skip in my rewatches. The only reason i've seen it recently is because I was going through the whole series with my boyfriend who was watching for the first time.

I know that in a fiction show they make stuff up and there is a certain amount of suspension of belief. But the idea of a species that secretes some kind of stuff that affects people's memories is too much for me. I guess it does some character exploration for Chakotay but all in all NOTHING happens in this episode. At the end they all forget and move on. I wonder though if one day in the future Chuckles finds that hand written log and what his thoughts are about it.
I agree with this, and hen I posted about it earlier after I watched I thought the ep could have used a more developed subplot to asisst in the overall flow of the ep (because yeah, not much concrete happening in a sense)...
 
What is it about Chakotay? Is it the stoicism? Is it the tattoo?

There's a Voyager podcast on Trek.FM and of the 3 female hosts that have been on there, they're always like oooohhh Chakotayyyy....ohhh he's back in the leather....:adore:
 
LOL, I never found him attractive so..... [...]
Well, that`s okay. But I have to go with Virginia Madsen: I had such a crush on him. A serious, serious crush. He was always gorgeous, and I got to kiss him."
When I met him I got the impression that he`s the most beautiful man I ever met. But that`s my taste. And he was charming and nice.
I like "Unforgettable" as a beautiful love story. Some things could have been better written. I didn`t like the scene near the end, where the man came in the quarter to get Kellin away. Why didn`t Chakotay defend her? He sould take the phaser, but he didn`t.
 
What is it about Chakotay? Is it the stoicism? Is it the tattoo?
I can't speak for any other chica than myself, but it's his facial features and general sort of physique, along with the character's somewhat calm, cool demeanor. My physical "type" that tends to attract me is dark hair, taller guys (or rather, not short) that are physically strong, but also smart and composed (sort of how Chak comes off). I'm also not usually attracted to "finer" facial features on men (e.g. fine or thin lips, small nose, etc) and Chak is opposite that, so qualifies... and his smile... those dimples... his eyes.... :drool::luvlove:
 
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if it weren't for Chak's gorgeous...mmmm...everything, then I might agree. ;)
Hey Cosmic Mouse, I'm getting busy with other projects also, but want to finish my 2 cents on Season 4. Today I'll post my comments on the first half of the last half. :):p

“Prey” is a strong, suspenseful episode for me, where a Hirogen ship finds Species 8472 a troublesome prey. Voyager joining forces with the Hirogen is a problematic but necessary solution. It succeeds in getting me to feel sorry for the alien near the end. I don’t care for the ending, but it demonstrates how different Seven of Nine is in her values at this point. And I frankly don’t know how Voyager was going to get out of their predicament without her doing that. Perhaps we see a foreshadowing for how Voyager could be overpowered by a pack of Hirogen ships later in Killing Game.

“Retrospect” was a look at a once hot issue of previous decades, how faulty “Recovered Memories” caused many to be accused of abuse when there was little or no evidence for it. The catalyst was the doctor playing an inexperienced psychologist believing Seven was victimized by an arms trader. The accusations have tragic consequences, for Kovin and for Voyager in not getting an additional weapons system they could have used against the Hirogen and other enemies.

“Killing Game” 1&2 – Once again a two parter that is a favorite with a lot of fans sort of underwhelmed me. Of course I’ve never been enamored of the holodeck. Admittedly, it was a good concept to allow the cast to dress up in (mostly) WWII era costumes (with a dash of Klingon on the side) and play slightly different characters. But the premise itself is horrific. To have the crew put through traumatic ordeals again and again only to be patched up (except for when they die) and sent back in again. Harry actually has one of the more interesting parts in this one as he attempts to keep the Hirogen happy and figure out a way to rescue the crew, with the docs help. I thought Chakotay made a nice GI Joe, still hitting on Janeway even in his amnesiac state. But since he never tried to steal a kiss, the whole episode was a waste imo. :brickwall:

“Vis a Vis” – I had totally forgotten this episode until I saw it again on re-watch. It’s something different. I found it interesting. Robbie gets to play a different character who has switched bodies with him, and another actor gets to play him. His attacking the captain was a good ploy. I forget whether the alien had a device which allowed him to do this, or it is a trait of his species. Imagine a whole planet constantly switching identities… would be very confusing!

“The Omega Directive” – This is another I barely remembered. Liked it better on re-watch. Janeway following orders to keep the Omega thing hush hush and then her senior officers rebelling a bit was good. Seven exploring spirituality a bit was OK. I like that something happened at the end that they could not explain and left a few of them in awe.

The rest in a couple of days...
 
@Odonna good stuff as always... appreciate the comments. :techman:

I thought Chakotay made a nice GI Joe, still hitting on Janeway even in his amnesiac state. But since he never tried to steal a kiss, the whole episode was a waste imo. :brickwall:
Ha ha, well Janeway may be partly to blame since she never seems to give him the time of day, amnesia or not... maybe even under the Hirogen influence Chakotay knew it was an uphill battle. ;)
 
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