I don't think so.
Voyager Redone, my version.
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I don't think so.
Accodin to Memory Alpha, http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Phage. It's never explained how the Phage originated. It would be quite clever to tie it to the Caretaker in a remake to make the storyline more "dense" and interconnected.
If the phage was engineered instead of a natural occurrence, it would certainly explain it's resilience to treatment.
I'm still stoked about learning more about this "Periphery/Wasteland" and "Inner Core" terminology. And of course about everything else.
Keep it coming.
Keep it coming.
It's intriguing.
So, to carry on:
Series Bible
- Voyager is a 35 year old Ambassador-Class Heavy Cruiser. This means there's a larger crew, so more people to kill off without severely hampering the ship and it can stand up in a fight longer against Kazon raiders and Vidiian Cruisers. Its’ weapons, shields and general equipment are outdated compared to Starfleet's present ships. However despite this, it is still a Heavy Cruiser with the capacity to make its own torpedoes and shuttlecraft. It’s fully capable of sustaining itself in battle even against multiple opponents, and if necessary could serve as the mobile command center for a war. It’s big enough to keep the Maquis Raider as the “Flagship” of its own fleet of smaller ships, along with a Talaxian Mini-Warship Neelix had.
- They aren’t in the Delta Quadrant, in fact it would be a mystery for a while as to where exactly they are. It annoyed me how in the show they knew exactly where they were in the DQ relative to Earth, so now they'd have no idea. This would also justify them visiting alien worlds and learning new stuff, it would fit into the plotline of gathering information about where they are so they can find a way home and also keep up the "Boldy going where no one has gone before" theme. Plus this means we can keep around alien races VOY encounters and have more time to flesh them out.
Also, in several systems they pass and worlds they encounter when doing repairs or scavenging, they find evidence that there was once major life in the Periphery, inhabited worlds, and that something happened to ravage the planets, destroy entire star systems, and generally trash the place.
- The first season flashback (which is the entire season) would deal with the two crews having to learn to co-exist, with things starting off tense because Janeway is so inexperienced as a command officer Chakotay comes off as more assertive and showing more command qualities than her since he’s a Veteran Fleet Flag Officer. To the extent that he seems like a better Captain while she would work out better as the XO with her more logical mind being better at carrying out orders or helping him with theorizing.
-But Janeway would earn her keep and respect by using her scientific knowlege and analytical mind to help their survival, like rigging a way for them to use the Nebula matter as fuel by making a fuel converter with B'Ellana, or harvesting water from comets, etc. She'd also begin using her scientific analytical skills more for tactical uses as well as survivalist science. They'd also have to deal with Cullah's attacks, as Voyager is the most advanced ship without a major power as a backer his groups have encountered. Voyager’s technology would easily propel the Kazon Piracy into the Empire Cullah wants them to be. A second reason would be hinted at, that they want VOY so they can curry favor with the “League”, which is explored further in Season 2.
-Eventually, Chakotay would be incapacitated due to injury and Janeway has to assume command as Full-time Captain without his help. She pulls it off and so when he recovers he fully embraces that they’ve switched roles and he’s okay being the XO to her Captain.
- On the worlds they do find with markets and stuff, they all use a currency based system/barter system so Voyager has to trade for money, and some of the crew even take jobs for money, and the Ship itself could do work as a courier due to their neutrality, or investigate missing vessels (a way of meeting the Vidiians) for money. This wouldn’t be a huge issue though, simply a background matter. Also, VOY wouldn’t be afraid to use its’ replicators to circumvent the system by stockpiling replicable items that are of good value to the merchants.
Series Bible
- Voyager is a 35 year old Ambassador-Class Heavy Cruiser. This means there's a larger crew, so more people to kill off without severely hampering the ship and it can stand up in a fight longer against Kazon raiders and Vidiian Cruisers. Its’ weapons, shields and general equipment are outdated compared to Starfleet's present ships. However despite this, it is still a Heavy Cruiser with the capacity to make its own torpedoes and shuttlecraft. It’s fully capable of sustaining itself in battle even against multiple opponents, and if necessary could serve as the mobile command center for a war. It’s big enough to keep the Maquis Raider as the “Flagship” of its own fleet of smaller ships, along with a Talaxian Mini-Warship Neelix had.
- They aren’t in the Delta Quadrant, in fact it would be a mystery for a while as to where exactly they are. It annoyed me how in the show they knew exactly where they were in the DQ relative to Earth, so now they'd have no idea. This would also justify them visiting alien worlds and learning new stuff, it would fit into the plotline of gathering information about where they are so they can find a way home and also keep up the "Boldy going where no one has gone before" theme. Plus this means we can keep around alien races VOY encounters and have more time to flesh them out.
Also, in several systems they pass and worlds they encounter when doing repairs or scavenging, they find evidence that there was once major life in the Periphery, inhabited worlds, and that something happened to ravage the planets, destroy entire star systems, and generally trash the place.
- The first season flashback (which is the entire season) would deal with the two crews having to learn to co-exist, with things starting off tense because Janeway is so inexperienced as a command officer Chakotay comes off as more assertive and showing more command qualities than her since he’s a Veteran Fleet Flag Officer. To the extent that he seems like a better Captain while she would work out better as the XO with her more logical mind being better at carrying out orders or helping him with theorizing.
-But Janeway would earn her keep and respect by using her scientific knowlege and analytical mind to help their survival, like rigging a way for them to use the Nebula matter as fuel by making a fuel converter with B'Ellana, or harvesting water from comets, etc. She'd also begin using her scientific analytical skills more for tactical uses as well as survivalist science. They'd also have to deal with Cullah's attacks, as Voyager is the most advanced ship without a major power as a backer his groups have encountered. Voyager’s technology would easily propel the Kazon Piracy into the Empire Cullah wants them to be. A second reason would be hinted at, that they want VOY so they can curry favor with the “League”, which is explored further in Season 2.
-Eventually, Chakotay would be incapacitated due to injury and Janeway has to assume command as Full-time Captain without his help. She pulls it off and so when he recovers he fully embraces that they’ve switched roles and he’s okay being the XO to her Captain.
- On the worlds they do find with markets and stuff, they all use a currency based system/barter system so Voyager has to trade for money, and some of the crew even take jobs for money, and the Ship itself could do work as a courier due to their neutrality, or investigate missing vessels (a way of meeting the Vidiians) for money. This wouldn’t be a huge issue though, simply a background matter. Also, VOY wouldn’t be afraid to use its’ replicators to circumvent the system by stockpiling replicable items that are of good value to the merchants.
Wow! You've definitely put a lot of thought into it.
Yes indeed, you did. I like the idea of the Periphery being a "ravaged" part of space I'm fond of that trope myself and a story I'm currently developing takes place in a part of space that was formally inhabited by a huge, advanced empire. In my setting I'm playing with having the characters stumble into things like ancient defense systems and other relcis and eventually piece together why the empire disappeared.
Do you plan something similar here?
Do you plan something similar here?
Is that a ST story or something different?
And turns into a vibrating rock?
Villains
- The Kazon encountered as enemies, Maje Cullah’s Sect, would be a powerful group of Space Pirates. The Kazon as a whole are Nomads in the Periphery/Wasteland who no longer have a homeworld, since about 100 years ago it was destroyed by the Trabe.
- For the last century or so the 3 big powers in the Periphery were the Talaxians, Trabe and Haakonians. But Trabe were overthrown and mostly destroyed by their Kazon servants, whilst the Talaxian and Haakonian Empires devastated each other in their big war. So now there’s no real power in the Periphery, it’s a big power vacuum. The closest thing are the Kazon, who stole most of the Trabe fleet for themselves but couldn’t maintain the Trabe’s infrastructure.
- Cullah has decided that his Sect will be the new Order to the Periphery/Wasteland and be more than nomads. They go to inhabited worlds and strike protection rackets with the natives: Tribute (which can range from monthly to bi-annually to yearly depending on the quality of the world) and the Kazon will “protect” them. As it turns out they’re honest about this and WILL come to the aid of a Contracted world. They need to protect their resource base after all. The tribute can be resources or people (for use as slaves/soldiers/sold off as slaves to others), and in the cases of advanced worlds like remaining free Talaxian colonies whom the Haakonians couldn’t outright conquer the Kazon have conquered them using them as supply depots or repair bases while stealing Talaxian tech for themselves.
- Essentially, the Kazon Piracy is a Pirate Clan that wants to become a Kingdom. But the other Kazon groups encountered are quite different: some have settled worlds as their own colonies to rebuild their old cultures and live in peace, others have become mercenaries who will do whatever you want for the right price (perhaps stories of VOY hiring the Kazon to protect them from the Kazon), some have become legitimate businessmen, etc.
- The appearance of the Kazon Pirate officers and Captains would vary the higher up you go in the Hierarchy. The random ones VOY encounters would wear more worn-out armored suits, patchwork armor really and the ships would also be clearly older vessels with patches of Talaxian and Haakonian tech here and there. The higher-ups an Cullah himself would have a much cleaner appearance and wear actual uniforms (as it turns out, these would be Trabe uniforms with some elements of League that Voyager encounters in S2) with their vessels being more factory-spec. His personal flagship itself would be almost like a palace.
- The Kazon encountered as enemies, Maje Cullah’s Sect, would be a powerful group of Space Pirates. The Kazon as a whole are Nomads in the Periphery/Wasteland who no longer have a homeworld, since about 100 years ago it was destroyed by the Trabe.
- For the last century or so the 3 big powers in the Periphery were the Talaxians, Trabe and Haakonians. But Trabe were overthrown and mostly destroyed by their Kazon servants, whilst the Talaxian and Haakonian Empires devastated each other in their big war. So now there’s no real power in the Periphery, it’s a big power vacuum. The closest thing are the Kazon, who stole most of the Trabe fleet for themselves but couldn’t maintain the Trabe’s infrastructure.
- Cullah has decided that his Sect will be the new Order to the Periphery/Wasteland and be more than nomads. They go to inhabited worlds and strike protection rackets with the natives: Tribute (which can range from monthly to bi-annually to yearly depending on the quality of the world) and the Kazon will “protect” them. As it turns out they’re honest about this and WILL come to the aid of a Contracted world. They need to protect their resource base after all. The tribute can be resources or people (for use as slaves/soldiers/sold off as slaves to others), and in the cases of advanced worlds like remaining free Talaxian colonies whom the Haakonians couldn’t outright conquer the Kazon have conquered them using them as supply depots or repair bases while stealing Talaxian tech for themselves.
- Essentially, the Kazon Piracy is a Pirate Clan that wants to become a Kingdom. But the other Kazon groups encountered are quite different: some have settled worlds as their own colonies to rebuild their old cultures and live in peace, others have become mercenaries who will do whatever you want for the right price (perhaps stories of VOY hiring the Kazon to protect them from the Kazon), some have become legitimate businessmen, etc.
- The appearance of the Kazon Pirate officers and Captains would vary the higher up you go in the Hierarchy. The random ones VOY encounters would wear more worn-out armored suits, patchwork armor really and the ships would also be clearly older vessels with patches of Talaxian and Haakonian tech here and there. The higher-ups an Cullah himself would have a much cleaner appearance and wear actual uniforms (as it turns out, these would be Trabe uniforms with some elements of League that Voyager encounters in S2) with their vessels being more factory-spec. His personal flagship itself would be almost like a palace.
So I take it you didn't like the scene where it starts vibrating?
Or the changelings on DS9.
None of the species in the Wasteland/Periphery can track VOY’s Warp Drive since Warp isn’t their method of FTL, so if VOY warped away fast enough that the enemy couldn’t sustain a pursuit velocity they wouldn’t be able to track them. They’d just warp away without possibility of tracking. So they have a major advantage in that if someone loses sight of them, that’s just it and there’s no pursuit beyond that. This just makes the Kazon want them even more since studying the Warp Drive would make them perfect for sneak attacks.
- The Vidiians are from the Central Core with their space having long been quarantined to prevent the Phage from spreading to the other advanced races. They don't want to attract the others in the Core into a “Sterilization Action” so they don't openly attack and harvest them, preying on whomever they encounter in the Periphery. They are the most advanced force in the Periphery but to keep their activities low-key and under the radar of the other greater powers in the Central Core they maintain unguarded secret bases and have only a few ships out at one time under radio silence. This will be to explain why there aren’t big Collection fleets out at once and why they don’t contact one another to gain reinforcements. Not all species are compatible with the Vidiian biology to explain why they don’t harvest primitive lifeforms, and by “luck” all the species on VOY are compatible.
- A subplot of the show would have Neelix getting aid from the VOY crew (mainly the Maquis) in launching attacks on the Kazon bases on Talaxian worlds in exchange for his help. They go in, either arm the Talaxians or destroy the main Kazon installations on those worlds and they immediately rebel against the Kazon. In return these worlds become part of the Talaxian Rebellion movement with Neelix as their liaison to VOY (and a rebel leader himself). A little of this is S1 and then cranking it up later on in the show.
- In return the Talaxians give them the supplies and connections they need to survive travel in the Periphery.
The Fleeters aren’t really all for needlessly attacking the Kazon but since the Kazon end up targeting them they realize they’ve made an enemy and have to fight back even if they try to not be as bloodthirsty as the Talaxians are.
- The Vidiians are from the Central Core with their space having long been quarantined to prevent the Phage from spreading to the other advanced races. They don't want to attract the others in the Core into a “Sterilization Action” so they don't openly attack and harvest them, preying on whomever they encounter in the Periphery. They are the most advanced force in the Periphery but to keep their activities low-key and under the radar of the other greater powers in the Central Core they maintain unguarded secret bases and have only a few ships out at one time under radio silence. This will be to explain why there aren’t big Collection fleets out at once and why they don’t contact one another to gain reinforcements. Not all species are compatible with the Vidiian biology to explain why they don’t harvest primitive lifeforms, and by “luck” all the species on VOY are compatible.
- A subplot of the show would have Neelix getting aid from the VOY crew (mainly the Maquis) in launching attacks on the Kazon bases on Talaxian worlds in exchange for his help. They go in, either arm the Talaxians or destroy the main Kazon installations on those worlds and they immediately rebel against the Kazon. In return these worlds become part of the Talaxian Rebellion movement with Neelix as their liaison to VOY (and a rebel leader himself). A little of this is S1 and then cranking it up later on in the show.
- In return the Talaxians give them the supplies and connections they need to survive travel in the Periphery.
The Fleeters aren’t really all for needlessly attacking the Kazon but since the Kazon end up targeting them they realize they’ve made an enemy and have to fight back even if they try to not be as bloodthirsty as the Talaxians are.
