..but the story concluded with them getting home, what would be left to tell that would require a movie?
Shades of Sex and the City, I could see Janeway, Seven, B'Elanna and Sam Wildman trying to find the prefect pair of shoes while knocking back an endless supply of cosmopolitans.
Matt, my dear, dear, dear, friend Matt, a very horrible thing happened halfway through the naughties. Berman had a multi million dollar ten year contract to oversee Star Trek. Enterprise was cancelled, and the movies were not deemed at all successful, so the money decided that they had to wait Berman out. I think it was two years, possible three? But they couldn't let Berman "start" anything new, becuase they were afraid that they might have to renew his contract if what ever his new Star Trek poject might have been took flight, so they red lighted everything until he put his feet up.
Berman decided that he wanted to be paid an enormous amount of money to do nothing for yeeeears, rather than allow a new fresh face to take on his duties, and actually make new Star Trek for me.
It was personal.
Matt, my dear, dear, dear, friend Matt, a very horrible thing happened halfway through the naughties. Berman had a multi million dollar ten year contract to oversee Star Trek. Enterprise was cancelled, and the movies were not deemed at all successful, so the money decided that they had to wait Berman out. I think it was two years, possible three? But they couldn't let Berman "start" anything new, becuase they were afraid that they might have to renew his contract if what ever his new Star Trek poject might have been took flight, so they red lighted everything until he put his feet up.
Berman decided that he wanted to be paid an enormous amount of money to do nothing for yeeeears, rather than allow a new fresh face to take on his duties, and actually make new Star Trek for me.
It was personal.
So, naturally, you've already set a revenge plan in motion?
I'm more furious with Abrams for only making less than 2 hours of Star Trek in the last 5 years, and for all the grand talk of the next movie, I don't think we're going to see that bugger before 2016.
Such a Princess!
Berman could have made 8 shitty movies, or a hundred episodes of a god awful tv show in the same amount of time it's taken Abrams to make 1 and a 1/2 so-so-meh(?) movies.
But I have no plans to activate any contingencies attached to my enemies list.
Such a Princess!
Berman could have made 8 shitty movies, or a hundred episodes of a god awful tv show in the same amount of time it's taken Abrams to make 1 and a 1/2 so-so-meh(?) movies.
But I have no plans to activate any contingencies attached to my enemies list.
The biggest reason for there not to be a Voyager movie is the cast might not be interested in coming back to their respective roles, depending onthe income. I can understand this, as sad as it is that it probably will never happen. That and script control. Too many rewrites to accomodate 9 people and the whole thing starts to fall apart.
No, the biggest reason is it would never get green-lighted in the first place...
Discussing this on the TrekBBS is never a good idea, because we're (mostly) fans and can be relied on to have an opinion - be it good or bad or whatever...but we in no way represent a cross-section of society (one flew over the cuckoo's nest maybe...)
Take "Articles of the Federation" one of the more popular Stand Alone Trek books of the 2000s. Go over to the lit forum, mention it and the vast majority of people will tell you how wonderful it is, and tell you how baffling it is that it didn't get a sequel - the reason is simple, hardly anyone bought it! I nearly didn't buy it - I thought it was just a reference book or something when I saw it advertised in the back of ATFW/ATFP! Of the 1% of people who might have read a Trek Novel, only a certain percentage of them will buy a book...
Trek Novels, DS9, Voyager and Enterprise are not the global phenomena that they sometimes seem to be. We discuss them to death, but [Christian Name] the [Trade] does not discuss, and likely does not know it exists!
A Voyager Movie, mini-series, whichever would need one of two things - you'd need a big enough fan following, or failing that, a Via-mount (or whoever owns Star Trek today) executive to be a big enough fan that he is blindly "convinced" that a properly marketed/written/whatever Voyager film would be a success and throw his weight behind it...
Discussing who would star in the film, contract negotiations scripts etc is something akin to wondering what the orchestra will be playing when the Titanic arrives in New York...unless you can stop it hitting an ice-berg 100 years ago, you can wonder all you like but it's never going to happen!
No, the biggest reason for there not to be a Voyager film is: money
Is there enough interest from the general public to warrant Paramount to invest money in a film based on Voyager. I'm not talking about just Trek fans, I mean the whole international public because that's what they're going to look for to show up to make such an investment worth while.
I was just sharing my view after reading another post which said pretty much the same thing I did. I do understand your views and respect them, though I still think whether the cast would want to do it is a big chunck of the pie needed to make a feature in the first place. Has anyone ever asked the Voyager cast the hypothetical question of reprising their roles for a movie or mini-series?
Yeah, Jeri Ryan said "No" to playing Seven of Nine again.
You're totally misunderstanding how television works if you think it'd be down to the cast whether or not it was made...
Cinema too.
No reason we can't have Janeway in ST:XII..
And I would love a Voyager movie, or just more Voyager. How about some Voyager miniseries? You put Janeway in it and 7 of 9 who still look great, and then you make the males all lose some weight if they want in otherwise you get some other Trek characters. You have 3 series that cross a similar time. MINI SERIES!!!!!
So I have this fantasy where JJ Abrams and I are trapped in a lift together for 12 hours and at the end of it he is SO INSPIRED by all my ideas that Voyager infuses all future Trek incarnations in some way.
And I would love a Voyager movie, or just more Voyager. How about some Voyager miniseries? You put Janeway in it and 7 of 9 who still look great, and then you make the males all lose some weight if they want in otherwise you get some other Trek characters. You have 3 series that cross a similar time. MINI SERIES!!!!!
So I have this fantasy where JJ Abrams and I are trapped in a lift together for 12 hours and at the end of it he is SO INSPIRED by all my ideas that Voyager infuses all future Trek incarnations in some way.
Well as you may remember I absolutely LOVE ST:XI, it was one of the high points of my life.
However I think this post is interesting because it makes me realize that I would actually prefer Berman's theoretical 8 shitty movies or a hundred eps of a new show to waiting around for the Holy Grail of a new Abrams Trek. What does this say about me.. quantity over quality.
When you go to sleep at night, either you can feel the pea under your 8 mattresses or you cannot.
It means that you're a decent ordinary human being.
It means that you're a decent ordinary human being.
Yeah, but that's putting the cart before the horse...with no movie there isnt a cast of actors...
They could always recast it...
Ahem.
I think after getting out of the lift, he'd run straight to a lawyer and have a restraining order placed on you so fast you wouldn't be allowed out of the southern hemisphere ever again!
As for a 3 trek miniseries, at least my fanfic includes 2 treks!
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