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Voyager beaming through shields

LimonaM

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Hello.

I like Voyager, but how can they beam through shields?
Did i miss something?

And they do that in a MANY episodes. That really bothers me.
Did they say somewhere, that they can beam through?

Any explanation?

Thanks.
 
Which episodes are you referring to? I think they did that occasionally as the plot warranted it, but not on a regular basis. And they can't beam through shields, because that's a general Trek rule.
 
To be sure, "no beaming through shields" was first established in the TOS episode "A Taste of Armageddon" - and then blatantly broken in that very same episode!

In the 24th century, a couple of techniques have been demonstrated for beaming through shields. Our VOY heroes could be using these techniques when we aren't looking. But the easier explanation is that they in fact drop shields for every transport, and we simply don't notice it because the camera is looking elsewhere when Janeway gives the command to drop shields.

What specific examples would there be of VOY violations of the rule? There's some murkiness in e.g. "Dragon's Teeth", but nothing that can't be covered with the "they dropped 'em when we looked elsewhere" explanation...

Timo Saloniemi
 
The one occasion that really stands out to me is Rise, but beaming through the shields was the *least* of the problems with that particular episode.

ETA: Actually, Timo, the "no beaming through the shields" rule was first established in Arena.
 
Didn't they establish some treknobabble explanation for how it's possible, based on shield modulation frequencies, or something? If you know the shield frequency you can get through?

That's how the Duras sisters fired through the shields to bring down the Enterprise-D, isn't it?
 
I believe it was mentioned in the Voyager S1 writer's bible that beaming through shields was not a big deal anymore, thanks to such epsiodes as TNG "Wounded". In that one, O'Brien found a way to beam through the raised shields of the USS Phoenix via her known "frequency windows". It's routine enough these days that they don't even mention it in dialogue during the pilot episode "Caretaker", where multiple people beam to and from Voyager even when she's in the middle of a pitched battle. DS9 was an apparent exception to this rule though, as Defiant had her cloak and I can't think of any of the few battles of the station itself that involved the station beaming stuff off or back.

Mark
 
...The big deal would be that the enemy cannot beam through your shields. And that held true rather well in all the shows, except when it was a plot point that shields couldn't stop the weally weally strong enemy of the week.

It might well be that only the most advanced ships in the DS9/VOY era can beam through their own shields, and the ships at Sisko's disposal didn't fit that category.

Timo Saloniemi
 
I think B'Ellana came up with something called a "skeletal lock" in the episode where Chakotay was kidnapped by Seska and the Kazon. That may have been to get through a dampening field though...
 
Have the transporter matter stream at the same frequency modulation as the shields.

It's like having two polarising filters aligned correctly.
 
It's routine enough these days that they don't even mention it in dialogue during the pilot episode "Caretaker", where multiple people beam to and from Voyager even when she's in the middle of a pitched battle.

Voyager didn't seem that immune in "Caretaker" Janeway had Chakotay and the Maquis ship distract the Kazon so she and Tuvok could beam to the array.

I think B'Ellana came up with something called a "skeletal lock" in the episode where Chakotay was kidnapped by Seska and the Kazon. That may have been to get through a dampening field though...

B'Elanna came up with the Skeletal lock during "Scorpion" to get Chakotay, Tuvok and Harry off the Borg ship when Species 8472 was coming for them.

When they were trying to rescue Chakotay from the Kazon, B'Elanna wanted to beam him aboard while at warp.
 
Hello.

I like Voyager, but how can they beam through shields?
Did i miss something?

And they do that in a MANY episodes. That really bothers me.
Did they say somewhere, that they can beam through?

Any explanation?

Thanks.


TUVOK: See if you can remodulate our transporters to match her shields. - From the episode The Raven, when Tuvok needed to beam over to the shuttle Seven was piloting.

It happened in Relics also, as the Jenolin's shields were keeping the Dyson Sphere doors from closing and they beamed Geordi and Scotty to the Enterprise.

The thing is, Transporting can be done many ways, and much of the reason they get a 'lock' and prefer not to transport through shields because of safety protocols. They don't need a lock, either but they must exercise every attempt to meet as much of the regulation protocols as they can to minimize risk. They did a blind beam-out to retrieve Harry, Chakotay and Torres in the Emanations episode. All they really need is coordinates, but as we saw in that episode, they could actually miss, and get something they didn't intend to.
 
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