I'm sorry you feel that way. I just don't know what to tell you.
Spoilers Visual continuity - Does Discovery strictly need to show past designs... at all?
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I'm a younger and newer fan brought in by TOS and the new movies.
I'm in the same boat. 25 years old, only been fan for about 10 years. My first Star Trek was TOS R, then the movies.
Same experience as me! Right on!
Nothing ya can tell me man, I rolled my eyes and laughed when that clunker showed up in ENT. It was such a joke it broke that whole episode for me. Which is sad, as I rather like the MU.
Watch "Tomorrow is Yesterday" and try to make sense of what they so at the end and how it's meant to fix anything.
And then wonder about how sometimes people vanish when their timelines change ("Time Squared" etc) and other times they just don't. Sometimes people remember things when they shouldn't. Once we had a trippy dream sequence when travelling back in STIV.
It's a hodgepodge of writers imposing their own ideas over a half-century. There wasn't much in the way of rules beyond "fix what you broke" - and ST'09 used that (or rather, didn't) to launch it's own rebooted film series.
Each to their own I suppose. I'll leave it at that.
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I'm enormously enjoying this show at the moment. But if they feel the need to return back to the old 60s style sets and apparel just to appease a handful of old skool TOS fans, I will be hugely disappointed. This is 2018, let the visuals on the show reflect that.
Probably for the best. TOS Enterprise will always be an advance looking starship to me, and fits in just fine from NX-01 to Kelvin to DISCO. And it will always work for me.
Here here!
My two cents: if you're going to design a prime-era prequel, it should respect that setting. If the setting can't be respected, then place the characters in an alternate timeframe or timeline. The multiverse is limitless, and the possibilities are endless. There's not been one single story in Discovery that requires or utilizes a 2250s Prime Universe setting. It's just a needless controversy that CBS brought on themselves with the declaration that this is A - not a reboot and B - is, indeed, the Prime universe many of us have loved for 50+ years. But it's not.
But it is. But it isn’t. But...it is. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Set decorations are not proof of a different setting or continuity.
I prefer the TOS style and design to DIS by a long shot. I think of TOS style like the clean and simple design of an Apple IPhone. It was intentionally designed for that bright, clean look in response to all of the dark and gritty low lighting of prior decades.
Except that set decorations are proof of a different setting or continuity.
No. They really, really aren’t. They’re proof of...set decorations.
Curt Swan’s Superman art did not look like Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez’ Superman art but they were the same continuity.
Steve Ditko’s Spider-Man art didn’t look like John Romita’s art. Same continuity.
Many artists can very closely ape another’s style if they wish (I’ve seen numerous examples). But they don’t. Yet people still follow the continuity without problem. No reason a TV show can’t be the same.
Exactly.
It’s not just set decorations. It’s the behavior of the crew also, the things they express. This is a show I can’t watch with my kids.
But even if it was just the decor, it’s proof enough. You don’t set a story in 19th century China and put your characters in blue jeans and white tee shirts and have them go to drive-in movies.
Anyway, that’s the way I see it. You see it another way, that’s fine. Cheers.
It's fiction, not history. So I think that's a false analogy.
The show is set 238 years from now. This is not a period piece, this is not a historical show, its a sci-fi show set two hundred and thirty-eight years from 2018. It should not look like 1960 or a cheap fan film based off a 1960's TV show.
Kids should not be watching Deadpool either. Not everything is for children.
I know I've made some comments in the past about how I think CBS is just flat out lying about the whole prime thing. But to be honest, I think the real truth is that CBS really doesn't give a crap about that. They only care about profit. They did not hire Bryan Fuller to create a prequel to TOS. They hired him to create a new Trek series in general and they left it up to him to decide what it was going to be about. The only stipulation they had was that it shouldn't take place in the Abramsverse. Fuller's original intent was to create a show which spanned the generations of pre-TOS, TOS, and TNG. But all that got nixed when he left, and now we are left with a universally-ambiguous show.
I think that if someone were to ask Les Moonves if DSC takes place in the Prime universe, he'd look at you funny because he'd have no idea what you were talking about.
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