I would have liked a more Forbidden Planet inspired look with a TOS color pallet for Discovery. I much happen to love that classic 50's/ 60's sci fi look with big budget and excellent production values. Oh well.
VFX Artist claims he worked on DISCO Enterprise CG model.
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This has, without question, been the funniest thing I've read all day. At least the most laughable.
Is this thread even accurate? I checked the original link yesterday, and the Reddit poster had corrected himself that he worked on the Discovery, not the Enterprise. Today, the entire thread is gone. So....?
Laughable?
They do not have propellers, masts, rudders or waterlines. They do not operate at sea. The people who operate them are not called "sailors" and the organization that runs them is not called "the navy." Thus, starships are not naval vessels. It's about as laughable as saying "phasers are not laser machineguns" or "Commander Data is not a dildo." There's a superficial similarity in the way they're used, but these are not the same things.
Tasha Yar would disagree.
I will point out that the movie that is from is in the middle of extensive re-shoots so there's good chance that design will no longer be in it.Remember when fans were, like, "they wouldn't redesign the Millenium Falcon!"
The reshoots finished in October.
Hmmm, so that reddit thread in my original post was locked and all comments deleted...
Perhaps someone DID spill the beans and was trying to backtrack. That would be in line with other things I've heard...
Perhaps someone DID spill the beans and was trying to backtrack. That would be in line with other things I've heard...
Except not. Going back to TOS is pandering, i.e. calculating to get their money. But keeping the ship "as is" is ignoring, i.e. calculating to keep one's own money by not making any changes.
And yet they did that every single time. Not just when they wanted to recycle TOS scenes on the cheap, but also when they wanted to do something brave and bold made possible by new technology. They never wavered. Why would they now?
It's the exact opposite of that - they invented a whole new timeline so that they could avoid contradicting the TOS aesthetique. (And still they felt obligated to insert the TOS ship in a scene that just happened to get cut in the end!)
Indeed, nothing from the past of Trek has ever been redone visually. Which is generally easy, because Trek doesn't revisit the exact same time periods except on special occasions where the catch-22 of "as-is saves and earns money" applies. Not a single Star Trek vessel has changed appearances - even the for some reason hated NX-01 pops up unaltered in all sorts of universes.
Nope. Any DSC appearance would be one of 'em "special occasions" where creative frugality masquerades as fan service. There would be no need to reinvent the franchise - that was Abrams' turf, and even he didn't dare let go of the original design.
For a different reason, perhaps? But we have covered all the bases already. TAS did it because they wanted continuity rather than change. TMP did it because they wanted change and wanted to show what had changed. TNG did it because it was cheap. DS9 did it because it was fun and cheap. ENT did it because it was fun and possible. ST:ID did it because... Dunno, because it was tradition by that point already?
TMP, TNG and ENT all invented an all-new aesthetique for an all-new era of audiences. None dared pretend that the older aesthetiques would have been invalid or would not have existed in-universe. And all were fine with the TOS aesthetique. Without ever asking the three different audience generations whether they were fine.
It's a moot point, is all. It's the Trek way of doing things. Because, deep down, it's a franchise, with the 1960s TV show as its excuse for existing.
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The thing is, any way they do it they're going to have to do a huge amount of work by building a new model, new sets, and a lot of CG art to make the thing look photorealistic next to everything else in the show. This is doubly true of the sets, which must be designed, built, painted and constructed.
So it's a calculated choice to see which section of the audience -- those who demand no changes and those who want to see something new and cool -- has the larger population. The Kelvinverse films made the exact same calculation, and we both know the answer that THEY reached.
More importantly, Discovery has one major advantage in that the bride and corridor sets for the Kelvinverse Enterprise still exist, and high-res models for the original ship are probably still available to them and can be converted into whatever system they're currently using with minimal modification (probably some shading work and a few touch ups). So using the newer sets is ultimately more cost effective than trying to rebuild the old ones from scratch, AND it has the virtue of appealing to fans of the more recent movies and providing at least the illusion of an expanded movie universe, which is ultimately good for marketing and, ultimately, sales.
The TOS aesthetic was furthest from their minds when they came up with the "alternate timeline" angle.
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