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Spoilers Venom reviews and discussion

Grade "Venom"

  • A+

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • A

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • A-

    Votes: 1 4.5%

  • B+

    Votes: 1 4.5%

  • B

    Votes: 7 31.8%

  • B-

    Votes: 3 13.6%

  • C+

    Votes: 3 13.6%

  • C

    Votes: 3 13.6%

  • C-

    Votes: 2 9.1%

  • D+

    Votes: 1 4.5%

  • D

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • D-

    Votes: 1 4.5%

  • F

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  • Total voters
    22
  • Poll closed .
crookeddy said:
So... Venom is critic proof, but DC characters are not, and nor is Solo? How does this work again??
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The first DCEU movie was critic proof (MOS) but it was the repeated failures that soured audiences. And the fans have been against the Sequels and any Disney SW movies since day one.
 
Professor Zoom said:
Force Awakens made 2 Billion dollars... funny way of showing "against Disney SW movies since day one"...
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The Old characters were in that film, and it was before they realized Disney was gonna start killing them (which is apparently an unforgivable offense). That's why it made money.
 
Anwar said:
The Old characters were in that film, and it was before they realized Disney was gonna start killing them (which is apparently an unforgivable offense). That's why it made money.
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Again: that’s hardly turning their backs on Disney Star Wars “from day one”

And the Last Jedi and Rogue One both made a billion dollars each. Hardly turning a back.

One could argue that with Solo. But, again, that’s hardly from “day one”
 
Professor Zoom said:
Again: that’s hardly turning their backs on Disney Star Wars “from day one”
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In regards to the new characters, yes it is, but the allure of the old characters coming back (likely in the hopes that the new characters would just be their incompetent sidekicks and not really the new leads) was enough to cancel that out temporarily.

And the Last Jedi and Rogue One both made a billion dollars each. Hardly turning a back
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Rogue One was about a story from the OT and killed everyone in the end so they couldn't "contaminate" the Original films. Last Jedi was when the negativity really started to show itself openly.

But this is starting to derail.
 
Venom set a new record for an October opening with $80 million. A Star is Born made a little more than half that.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4444


Also the PG-13 rating helped the movie

One interesting note is while Venom's audience was predictably male leaning at 59%, only 36% of the overall audience was 25 years of age or older. Comparatively, 46% of Ant-Man and the Wasp's audience was 25+, 46% of Suicide Squad and 69% of Justice League. In fact, Venom had a younger overall audience than even Spider-Man: Homecoming which played to an audience of which 49% was 25 years of age or older.
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Anwar said:
In regards to the new characters, yes it is, but the allure of the old characters coming back (likely in the hopes that the new characters would just be their incompetent sidekicks and not really the new leads) was enough to cancel that out temporarily.



Rogue One was about a story from the OT and killed everyone in the end so they couldn't "contaminate" the Original films. Last Jedi was when the negativity really started to show itself openly.

But this is starting to derail.
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I agree and with moving fence posts
 
I saw Venom and Solo as very similar situations - spin offs people didn't really want that weren't well received by critics. I didn't realize there was anything to a venom movie that would somehow make it critic proof...
 
Anwar said:
The Old characters were in that film, and it was before they realized Disney was gonna start killing them (which is apparently an unforgivable offense). That's why it made money.
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Horseshit. Anyone who knows anything about Star Wars and Harrison Ford should have expected Han Solo to be killed off in TFA the moment it was announced he was in it.
 
The Wormhole said:
Horseshit. Anyone who knows anything about Star Wars and Harrison Ford should have expected Han Solo to be killed off in TFA the moment it was announced he was in it.
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Casual fans, even the ones who watched since the OT, wouldn't have known.
 
Christopher said:
Sony has the movie rights to the Spider-Man characters, period. The solo Spider-Man films are actually owned and released by Sony, just subcontracted to Marvel Studios for the creative and production side (much as Paramount subcontracts Bad Robot to make Star Trek and Mission: Impossible films). In exchange, Sony loans the Spider-Man character (and Aunt May and Ned, so far) to Marvel Studios for use in crossover films. Marvel can only use the Spidey-franchise characters that Sony agrees to loan them.
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I keep forgetting that Marvel is completely in control of the Spider-Man movies.

I can't get over the box office, I honestly expected this to completely bomb.
 
I saw this yesterday afternoon with my wife. I didn't expect to much from it and ended up enjoying it .
I think Tom Hardy did a great job of making Eddie Brock a sympathetic character, I understand this is not the same story as his background from the comics , but it worked well in this story as I thought it was suggested that Eddie's personality influenced Venom's change of heart.
Also enjoyed the humor in Venom's inner dialog, even though some of it was over the top.
I think the comparison to the Fantastic Four movie from 2005 was apt, both are good not great.
Worth the time it takes to see it for sure
 
The Wormhole said:
Really? You've gone thirty years without hearing the story about how Ford begged to have Han killed off in ROTJ and how he's been bitchy over it not happening? It's not exactly a secret or an obscure fact.
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For a long time, yeah I didn't know that.
 
So with a bit of success it sounds like Avi Arad has got his inflated ego back.

http://collider.com/morbius-movie-filming-details/#sony


The interesting thing about Morbius is that’s another character that can go a whole bunch of different ways. Do you envision all of these Spider-Man spinoffs being PG 13? Do you think there’s any character, or any part of the universe that could go to an R-rated release?
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TOLMACH: Without compromising the character.

ARAD: We didn’t compromise anywhere. You saw the movies. There is no compromise. That was Venom.
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Not compromising Venom? Venom is supposed to be brutal. Not PG-13

Carnage isn't a psychopath. He's a tortured soul

ARAD: You know what? When you hear Venom…forget Venom. When you hear, Carnage, the only thing you can think of is R. But, if you know his story, if you really know the comic, there’s no R here. He’s a tortured soul. It’s not about what he does, because we never have to show the knife going from here to there, and the blood is pouring. What you have to show is, what is the motivation? Was he born like that, or it’s someone we should feel for, because if you are succeeding to make a villain someone you can feel for, jackpot.
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