Spoilers Venom reviews and discussion

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Grade "Venom"

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  1. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Admiral Admiral

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    It got good by the end, but it sure takes a while to get there.
     
  2. crookeddy

    crookeddy Commodore Commodore

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    So... Venom is critic proof, but DC characters are not, and nor is Solo? How does this work again??
     
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  3. Anwar

    Anwar Vice Admiral Admiral

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    The first DCEU movie was critic proof (MOS) but it was the repeated failures that soured audiences. And the fans have been against the Sequels and any Disney SW movies since day one.
     
  4. Professor Zoom

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    Force Awakens made 2 Billion dollars... funny way of showing "against Disney SW movies since day one"...
     
  5. Anwar

    Anwar Vice Admiral Admiral

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    The Old characters were in that film, and it was before they realized Disney was gonna start killing them (which is apparently an unforgivable offense). That's why it made money.
     
  6. Professor Zoom

    Professor Zoom Admiral Admiral

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    Again: that’s hardly turning their backs on Disney Star Wars “from day one”

    And the Last Jedi and Rogue One both made a billion dollars each. Hardly turning a back.

    One could argue that with Solo. But, again, that’s hardly from “day one”
     
  7. Anwar

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    In regards to the new characters, yes it is, but the allure of the old characters coming back (likely in the hopes that the new characters would just be their incompetent sidekicks and not really the new leads) was enough to cancel that out temporarily.

    Rogue One was about a story from the OT and killed everyone in the end so they couldn't "contaminate" the Original films. Last Jedi was when the negativity really started to show itself openly.

    But this is starting to derail.
     
  8. Samurai8472

    Samurai8472 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Venom set a new record for an October opening with $80 million. A Star is Born made a little more than half that.

    https://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4444


    Also the PG-13 rating helped the movie

     
  9. Professor Zoom

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    I agree and with moving fence posts
     
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  10. crookeddy

    crookeddy Commodore Commodore

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    I saw Venom and Solo as very similar situations - spin offs people didn't really want that weren't well received by critics. I didn't realize there was anything to a venom movie that would somehow make it critic proof...
     
  11. Turtletrekker

    Turtletrekker Admiral Admiral

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  12. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Admiral Admiral

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    Horseshit. Anyone who knows anything about Star Wars and Harrison Ford should have expected Han Solo to be killed off in TFA the moment it was announced he was in it.
     
  13. Anwar

    Anwar Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Casual fans, even the ones who watched since the OT, wouldn't have known.
     
  14. JD

    JD Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I keep forgetting that Marvel is completely in control of the Spider-Man movies.

    I can't get over the box office, I honestly expected this to completely bomb.
     
  15. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Admiral Admiral

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    Really? You've gone thirty years without hearing the story about how Ford begged to have Han killed off in ROTJ and how he's been bitchy over it not happening? It's not exactly a secret or an obscure fact.
     
  16. Turtletrekker

    Turtletrekker Admiral Admiral

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  17. Kytee

    Kytee Commander Red Shirt

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    I saw this yesterday afternoon with my wife. I didn't expect to much from it and ended up enjoying it .
    I think Tom Hardy did a great job of making Eddie Brock a sympathetic character, I understand this is not the same story as his background from the comics , but it worked well in this story as I thought it was suggested that Eddie's personality influenced Venom's change of heart.
    Also enjoyed the humor in Venom's inner dialog, even though some of it was over the top.
    I think the comparison to the Fantastic Four movie from 2005 was apt, both are good not great.
    Worth the time it takes to see it for sure
     
  18. Anwar

    Anwar Vice Admiral Admiral

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    For a long time, yeah I didn't know that.
     
  19. Samurai8472

    Samurai8472 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    So with a bit of success it sounds like Avi Arad has got his inflated ego back.

    http://collider.com/morbius-movie-filming-details/#sony


    Not compromising Venom? Venom is supposed to be brutal. Not PG-13

    Carnage isn't a psychopath. He's a tortured soul

     
  20. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

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    There's no reason you can't portray brutality in a PG-13 movie. You just have to leave some of the visual details to the imagination, which Alfred Hitchcock would tell you is actually more effective than showing it outright.
     
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