Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Turtletrekker, Oct 2, 2018.
It got good by the end, but it sure takes a while to get there.
So... Venom is critic proof, but DC characters are not, and nor is Solo? How does this work again??
The first DCEU movie was critic proof (MOS) but it was the repeated failures that soured audiences. And the fans have been against the Sequels and any Disney SW movies since day one.
Force Awakens made 2 Billion dollars... funny way of showing "against Disney SW movies since day one"...
The Old characters were in that film, and it was before they realized Disney was gonna start killing them (which is apparently an unforgivable offense). That's why it made money.
Again: that’s hardly turning their backs on Disney Star Wars “from day one”
And the Last Jedi and Rogue One both made a billion dollars each. Hardly turning a back.
One could argue that with Solo. But, again, that’s hardly from “day one”
In regards to the new characters, yes it is, but the allure of the old characters coming back (likely in the hopes that the new characters would just be their incompetent sidekicks and not really the new leads) was enough to cancel that out temporarily.
Rogue One was about a story from the OT and killed everyone in the end so they couldn't "contaminate" the Original films. Last Jedi was when the negativity really started to show itself openly.
But this is starting to derail.
Venom set a new record for an October opening with $80 million. A Star is Born made a little more than half that.
Also the PG-13 rating helped the movie
I agree and with moving fence posts
I saw Venom and Solo as very similar situations - spin offs people didn't really want that weren't well received by critics. I didn't realize there was anything to a venom movie that would somehow make it critic proof...
Forbes Magazine did a piece on Venom and it's global $205 million dollar opening weekend.
Horseshit. Anyone who knows anything about Star Wars and Harrison Ford should have expected Han Solo to be killed off in TFA the moment it was announced he was in it.
Casual fans, even the ones who watched since the OT, wouldn't have known.
I keep forgetting that Marvel is completely in control of the Spider-Man movies.
I can't get over the box office, I honestly expected this to completely bomb.
Really? You've gone thirty years without hearing the story about how Ford begged to have Han killed off in ROTJ and how he's been bitchy over it not happening? It's not exactly a secret or an obscure fact.
Eddie Brock's notes on Cletus Kasady were on display at NYCC this weekend.
I saw this yesterday afternoon with my wife. I didn't expect to much from it and ended up enjoying it .
I think Tom Hardy did a great job of making Eddie Brock a sympathetic character, I understand this is not the same story as his background from the comics , but it worked well in this story as I thought it was suggested that Eddie's personality influenced Venom's change of heart.
Also enjoyed the humor in Venom's inner dialog, even though some of it was over the top.
I think the comparison to the Fantastic Four movie from 2005 was apt, both are good not great.
Worth the time it takes to see it for sure
For a long time, yeah I didn't know that.
So with a bit of success it sounds like Avi Arad has got his inflated ego back.
Not compromising Venom? Venom is supposed to be brutal. Not PG-13
Carnage isn't a psychopath. He's a tortured soul
There's no reason you can't portray brutality in a PG-13 movie. You just have to leave some of the visual details to the imagination, which Alfred Hitchcock would tell you is actually more effective than showing it outright.
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