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Should I read the minipedia before starting the story?
Should I read the minipedia before starting the story?
Vanguard: Reap the Whirlwind
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^ If that's a joke ... heh. If not ... no.
^ If that's a joke ... heh. If not ... no.
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I finished it today and I have got to say, WOW!!! I am just speechless.
I finished it today and I have got to say, WOW!!! I am just speechless.
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^ I'll take that as a compliment.
^ I'll take that as a compliment.
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^ IIRC, in the latter half of next year, from the dynamic duo of Ward and Dilmore.
^ IIRC, in the latter half of next year, from the dynamic duo of Ward and Dilmore.
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^ Just to nitpick, although the Vanguard saga currently comprises three volumes, it is not, strictly speaking, a trilogy. It is a continuing series that, while having certain finite story arcs, also contains a number of open-ended narrative threads. In theory, as long as its sales justify its continuation, Pocket can find ways to carry it forward.
^ Just to nitpick, although the Vanguard saga currently comprises three volumes, it is not, strictly speaking, a trilogy. It is a continuing series that, while having certain finite story arcs, also contains a number of open-ended narrative threads. In theory, as long as its sales justify its continuation, Pocket can find ways to carry it forward.
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Vanguard was originally planned as an arc that had a specific resolution in mind, but it was never intended to be told in only three books. (And it's flexible enough to go on beyond the original arc, or to adjust how it unfolds.) So arc or no arc, "trilogy" is the wrong word.
Vanguard was originally planned as an arc that had a specific resolution in mind, but it was never intended to be told in only three books. (And it's flexible enough to go on beyond the original arc, or to adjust how it unfolds.) So arc or no arc, "trilogy" is the wrong word.
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Is it expected that there will be three books to future story arcs?
Is it expected that there will be three books to future story arcs?
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Technically, it wasn't told in three books.
Book 1 - Distant Early Warning
Book 2 - Harbinger
Book 3 - Summon the Thunder
Book 4 - Reap the Whirlwind
Just to be a bit more accurate.
Dump the pigeonhole expectations of "trilogies" and whatnot, they're getting old. Be bold! be different! Tell a story in 5 books if that's what it takes.
This story took 4. Kudos to that rationale.
Personally, I'd like to see a slim, dead-tree version of Distant Early Warning to add to my bookshelf.
Technically, it wasn't told in three books.
Book 1 - Distant Early Warning
Book 2 - Harbinger
Book 3 - Summon the Thunder
Book 4 - Reap the Whirlwind
Just to be a bit more accurate.
Dump the pigeonhole expectations of "trilogies" and whatnot, they're getting old. Be bold! be different! Tell a story in 5 books if that's what it takes.
This story took 4. Kudos to that rationale.
Personally, I'd like to see a slim, dead-tree version of Distant Early Warning to add to my bookshelf.
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^^Uhh, that's not right either. For one thing, as Dave just said, this story is by no means over. Vanguard will continue. Reap the Whirlwind is not the finale, just the most recent installment of an ongoing series.
For another thing, Distant Early Warning is not really a Vanguard story, it's an SCE story that crosses over with Vanguard.
^^Uhh, that's not right either. For one thing, as Dave just said, this story is by no means over. Vanguard will continue. Reap the Whirlwind is not the finale, just the most recent installment of an ongoing series.
For another thing, Distant Early Warning is not really a Vanguard story, it's an SCE story that crosses over with Vanguard.
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^ Exactly. Dayton and Kevin are already working on the next Vanguard novel -- heaven knows there are enough unresolved story lines by the end of Reap the Whirlwind to keep them busy a while.
^ Exactly. Dayton and Kevin are already working on the next Vanguard novel -- heaven knows there are enough unresolved story lines by the end of Reap the Whirlwind to keep them busy a while.
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I'll certainly be interested to see where the unresolved plotlines lead.
I'm also looking forward to the cover artwork for the next one whenever it's ready for public unveiling. So far, I've been having a load of fun with examining those. When does the Rocinante get its time to shine, I wonder?
I'll certainly be interested to see where the unresolved plotlines lead.
I'm also looking forward to the cover artwork for the next one whenever it's ready for public unveiling. So far, I've been having a load of fun with examining those. When does the Rocinante get its time to shine, I wonder?
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Who knows? Depending upon future story arcs, it's possible that it might merit a cover appearance. We'll just have to wait and see, though.
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I don't get why every time the third part of a series comes out people assume it is a trilogy, there are plenty of times (like this one apparently) that have more than three books.
Ok, now I have two quick questions:
1. Are there enough threads tied up for this to be considered the end of an arc? Personally I hope not, I'd rather see the arcs get alittle more depth than just three books.
2. Are we ever going to get an in universe explanation for why we have never heard of Vanguard, the Meta Genome, and the Shedai in the 24th century stuff? Because IMO this seems like the kind of thing that could have major impact on the UFP for quite some time.
I don't get why every time the third part of a series comes out people assume it is a trilogy, there are plenty of times (like this one apparently) that have more than three books.
Ok, now I have two quick questions:
1. Are there enough threads tied up for this to be considered the end of an arc? Personally I hope not, I'd rather see the arcs get alittle more depth than just three books.
2. Are we ever going to get an in universe explanation for why we have never heard of Vanguard, the Meta Genome, and the Shedai in the 24th century stuff? Because IMO this seems like the kind of thing that could have major impact on the UFP for quite some time.
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It's a big universe. How often has 24th century ST mentioned the first moon landing, various assassinations, the Xindi, most of ST:TMP's alien UFP members, the Earth/Romulan Wars, etc.
Bookwise, one of the "Lost Era" novels featured a different Vanguard, for which Starbase 47 is presumably named. And the DS9 relaunch books has Prynn Tenmei, who was named after T'Prynn.
It's a big universe. How often has 24th century ST mentioned the first moon landing, various assassinations, the Xindi, most of ST:TMP's alien UFP members, the Earth/Romulan Wars, etc.
Bookwise, one of the "Lost Era" novels featured a different Vanguard, for which Starbase 47 is presumably named. And the DS9 relaunch books has Prynn Tenmei, who was named after T'Prynn.
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I just started today. After 3 chapters, I cannot make any comments.
I just started today. After 3 chapters, I cannot make any comments.
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Case in point: Curzon Dax played a significant role in the resolution of the Betreka Nebula Incident in The Art of the Impossible, a mere few decades before the timeframe of Deep Space Nine. Did you feel it necessary to demand an "in-universe" explanation for why Dax never discussed this protracted astropolitical struggle that shaped Klingon-Cardassian relations for decades afterward? If not, why demand such an explanation for Vanguard?
In my opinion, no. Certain major questions are answered and relationships clarified, but this arc is far from done.
As another poster has already pointed out, it's not necessary to explain anything of the sort. Much of what transpires in the books would not be public knowledge, not even those elements that are intended to demonstrate its lasting effects on the Federation.
Case in point: Curzon Dax played a significant role in the resolution of the Betreka Nebula Incident in The Art of the Impossible, a mere few decades before the timeframe of Deep Space Nine. Did you feel it necessary to demand an "in-universe" explanation for why Dax never discussed this protracted astropolitical struggle that shaped Klingon-Cardassian relations for decades afterward? If not, why demand such an explanation for Vanguard?
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