News Van Sprang: Leland, AI And The Borg

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Alan van Sprang portrays Section 31’s Leland, and in a recent interview with Star Trek.com, he spoke about getting and playing the...

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[fireproof78]

 

[Lord Garth]

Star Trek: Discovery has been Assimilated.

 

[Qonundrum]

More proof DSC is in its own universe, never mind suffering royally from small universe syndrome; TNG and VOY explained the Borg origins sufficiently and in rather a different direction than "Section 31 created it, since they got bored with their other creation they called "Frankenstein'." This show is great as fanfic if not outright fanwank, or they're trolling the audience again.

 

[Longinus]

Certainly this means it actually has nothing to do with the Borg? If that really was their 'big twist' then he definitely wouldn't be allowed to say anything like that. Right?

 

[Noname Given]

More proof DSC is in its own universe, never mind suffering royally from small universe syndrome; TNG and VOY explained the Borg origins sufficiently and in rather a different direction than "Section 31 created it, since they got bored with their other creation they called "Frankenstein'." This show is great as fanfic if not outright fanwank, or they're trolling the audience again.

Please point me to the episode where either TNG or YOY explained the origin of the Borg. <--- That's never been done. All that's been stated is that they are on a quest for perfection and take anything advantageous to that end (either biological or technology).

Nothings ever been stated as to what the original and actual 'genesis' of the actual Borg (Hell, some felt that V'GER ended up on a Borg planet and it was the Borg that remodeled it and sent it back out into the Universe to travel and evolve.)

I too really hope they don't end up saying that the Red Angel's time traveling and fight against 'Control' leads to the genesis of the Borg as we've come to know them; but again, to be fair, there's no Star trek episode I know of across Berman era Trek that explains or actually has shown the true genesis of "The Borg'.

(And no, Novels DON'T count as hell, if you go by the Novels there's multiple stories about the genesis of the Romulans and plenty that DON'T involve them being a group of Vulcans that left to the stars after the last Vulcan war that lead to "The Awakening".)

 

[drt]

I just read that as he liked when Picard was turned into Locutus so was excited to play something similar.

 

[Cyrus]

Jeez, even the actor thought this was going to be Borg. But the fact that he talks about it openly hopefully means it's not the Borg.

 

[Delta Vega]

If he's being allowed to talk about the Borg, its not a Borg origin thing

 

[NewHeavensNewEarth]

I'm open to whatever, but why doesn't anyone want to know where the Borg came from? Is everyone Borged out?

 

[Mudd]

I'm open to whatever, but why doesn't anyone want to know where the Borg came from? Is everyone Borged out?

Because it doesn't matter.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

Correct me if I'm wrong, I can't remember the source, but wasn't there a proposed Season 5 Enterprise story where Alice Krige was going to play a Starfleet scientist/medical officer that was going to be the first Borg Queen? I seriously think the idea of a Starfleet organization being the genesis of the galaxy's biggest threat is just too good to ignore.

 

[NewHeavensNewEarth]

Because it doesn't matter.

If the role of a prequel is to connect the dots for how things became the things we're familiar with later on, then an explanation for the Borg's origin would fit that goal. Within DSC, there are already plenty of questions about "new" things (like certain tech) in an "older" time frame, so exploring something familiar shouldn't be that repugnant of an idea.

If it's not the Borg, that's cool with me, but it's interesting to see what reactions the "B" word gets from people. The Borg are a more divisive topic than ever as one of the most recognizable baddies from ST lore.

 

[XCV330]

red herring.. get your deep fried red herring! get it while its hot

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I don't give a shit how the Borg were created. I also don't care how the P became the Q.

 

[Vger23]

IZ TEH BORGS!!!1!1!

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

IZ TEH BORGS!!!1!1!

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I'm open to whatever, but why doesn't anyone want to know where the Borg came from?

Probably because the origin of the Borg has already been told in the litverse (the Destiny trilogy) and even though that's not canon, we really don't want to see all of that suddenly invalidated.

 

[Longinus]

If the role of a prequel is to connect the dots for how things became the things we're familiar with later on,

I really, really wish that the idea that prequels need to do that would die.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Besides, not only do we already know that Control cannot logically be the origin of the Borg, for at least two reasons:

- the Borg have already been in existence for thousands of years by the time we first meet them
- Control's mission is to destroy all sentient life; the Borg are out to assimilate (not destroy)

...but in all of the flash-forwards that DSC has shown us, Control is never seen assimilating anyone or anything. There is absolutely nothing indicative of the Borg in any of those future scenes.