V: "Serpent's Tooth" - Jan. 11 - Grading & Discussion

[Aragorn]

Spoiler: 2x01: "Serpent's Tooth"

Anna and Diana square off in the dark bowels of the Mothership – Diana has been down there for 15 years and not had a single glimpse of Anna. Meanwhile, Erica has Tyler's blood analyzed, and learns the V's did something sinister to her when she was pregnant with him.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Caption contest?

"Oh please dear Lord, get us off this crappy show."

 

[Tom]

Some more stuff revealed..and some more eye rolling also. lol

 

[Amaris]

What the hell was this?! Terrible, terrible episode this week. Nothing fit together, and I started feeling my eyes glaze over. Then they get into this weird soul talk and I'm just wondering when I channeled it over to some kind of Syfy presentation.

I hope next week is better, because this one was a major letdown!

 

[Tom]

Well the Inter-breeding thing was confirmed..but we need to get rid of those dam souls..LOL Give me a break. This show is falling apart..again

 

[startrekwatcher]

Average.

The show is just rehashing stuff--a Queen who can telepathically link minds with her soldiers, emotions being a bad thing yet the aliens get intrigued by them(and it doesn't help the way they went about discussing it was so silly), the terrorism stuff that shows for the last decade have covered better and in more interesting ways i.e. suicide bombers etc etc.

Jane Badler was wasted. I also don't buy the stupid idea that a human skin infects the Vs with emotions since it is just an outer covering and as far as we know they didn't incorporate human brains into theirs which is where emotions biologically originate. Also I might have missed something but why did Diana tell Anna she was infertile when last season she laid all those soldier eggs.

Scott Wolf needs to go his character is a waste and Morris Chestnut's acting sucks. Joel Gretsch I used to enjoy his acting but Father Jack is a bore.

 

[Tom]

The cgi of Anna's wide mouth eating the mouse was horrible. Heaven forbid they keep the baby in lizard form, it just tells the the viewers how cheap there being by not showing the lizards everyone including babys have to look human.

 

[Amaris]

Well the Inter-breeding thing was confirmed..but we need to get rid of those dam souls..LOL Give me a break. This show is falling apart..again

Thing is, I've been a fan up to this point, but now they're just going off into what I like to call Syfy territory. The show started focusing last week and I was excited about moving forward, and then *bam*, right up against the wall. I had to check my cable guide to make sure I wasn't watching Days of Our Lives. The soul thing was the worst part of all. I mean, what's the point? If my eyes could have rolled any further, they'd be in geosynchronous orbit.

 

[Gary Mitchell]

The cgi of Anna's wide mouth eating the mouse was horrible. Heaven forbid they keep the baby in lizard form, it just tells the the viewers how cheap there being by not showing the lizards everyone including babys have to look human.

Yeah, it wasn't much better than the rubber head they used for Diana in the miniseries 25 years ago.

 

[Saga]

eh, it was alright. Badler was wasted though. you could have had anyone in that role and it would be exactly the same.

 

[23skidoo]

I got a "cleaning house" vibe with this one. Rekha Sharma's character being a V is something I picked up on the first time she appeared on screen, so no surprise there. Jane Badler was brilliant - not wasted at all. I didn't expect her to do a reprise of Diana. Instead, we get some well-written discussion about what makes humans human, and the possibility that Badler's character might not be a villain. Or at the very least she falls into "My enemy's enemy is my friend".

Unfortunately, the discussion about souls is probably too deep for the mass American audience. We already have one website (By the Numbers) declaring V cancelled based on last week's ratings alone (though they've also declared Fringe cancelled based solely upon it having been moved to Friday, so I don't really have much respect for that site's opinion). I'm sure some high-falutin' discussion about souls probably won't endear the show to people who want laser guns and catsuits. (Edit: I just read some of the comments above, and was proven correct.) Though I will say it has Rockne O'Bannon's fingerprints all over it! The whole souls bit is classic Farscape.

That's OK. They can cancel the show if they want to - I'm satisfied that we finally got to see a modern-day homage to the classic V mouse-eating scene! I pumped the air (and yes it did look a bit cheesy - obviously intentional because no one does cheesy in 2011 ... right?).

Alex

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

eh, it was alright. Badler was wasted though. you could have had anyone in that role and it would be exactly the same.

Not wasted, but per the other thread, I think she was a "stunt" casting.

Anyone not familiar with the original isn't going to know who she is, but those who are familiar with it might give this version a shot, like me. First episode I've seen, I might watch it again.

On the plus side, we do get so see that prize a$$ again. And Morena gets a hot mom in yet another show.

 

[Kitty Worrier]

I got a "cleaning house" vibe with this one. Rekha Sharma's character being a V is something I picked up on the first time she appeared on screen, so no surprise there.

That was confirmed last season.

The whole souls thing was very meh to me; it got pretty over the top. Anna should grow a mustash, so she can twirl it and laugh maniacally.

Liked Dianna saying that Anna will be betrayed by her daughter. haha. Can't wait.

 

[Gepard]

Not three minutes in, and I have to ask: Anna infertile and Lisa the only one able to breed? What? What about all that egg laying Anna did last season? This doesn't make any sense.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I'm reaching, but if Anna if full of human emotion, then her babies will be full of human emotion. She will not create imperfet babies so, therefore she has chosen to say that she is infertile rather than admit that she is emotional and produce a generation of flawed children that will have to be thrown into the furnace.

Or dd she use up all her eggs? thousand and thousand of babies later she just plain run out.

You know how they keep saying "human emotion" instead of just "emotion" and that there are many worlds which they can go to, well maybe the other aliens species out there are not void too but just different?

 

[Snaploud]

Or dd she use up all her eggs? thousand and thousand of babies later she just plain run out.

That explanation seems the most likely to me.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I would call that barren, not infertile however but it's really splitting hairs.

there is another option.

What if Anna was lying?

 

[Vendikarr]

Average.

I also don't buy the stupid idea that a human skin infects the Vs with emotions since it is just an outer covering and as far as we know they didn't incorporate human brains into theirs which is where emotions biologically originate.

My feeling about this, and it isn't stated in the show, is that the human skins are allowing more sensory input to the Vs than they normally have in their native form.

And the influx of this additional data to their brains is leading to more emotional response. Much like what happened to the Kelvans in the Star Trek episode "By Any Other Name."

 

[Iconian]

The whole soul debate almost killed the episode for me. Anna: Let's research and destroy human souls. Really? Other than that, I thought Serpent's Tooth was OK. I actually liked the introduction of a worldwide resistance movement. About time. Their tactics are stupid, though. I also liked the overall explanation about why the Vs are here and what they are plotting.

Now, who's the best rat-eater?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VObQfWMgmIM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-WIoA_0VfU

 

[Amaris]

The whole soul debate almost killed the episode for me. Anna: Let's research and destroy human souls. Really? Other than that, I thought Serpent's Tooth was OK. I actually liked the introduction of a worldwide resistance movement. About time. Their tactics are stupid, though. I also liked the overall explanation about why the Vs are here and what they are plotting.

Now, who's the best rat-eater?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VObQfWMgmIM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-WIoA_0VfU

We shall go to Hooston to rule. Finally... to rule.