V: "Red Rain" - Jan. 4 - Grading & Discussion

[Temis the Vorta]

Eh, I liked it. It's been obvious for some time now that this show will never be very good, so at least it should be crazy/gory/creepy/cheeseball fun, and this episode had many steps in the right direction, from melting faces to mutant baby in a glass jar to lizard-tail-fu to nasty-ass alien skeleton in a secret lab. Brett Harrison looks like he'll be a good addition to the cast, I hope they don't kill him off too fast.

And there are still the howlers...the mob riots because the aliens frakked up the sky and then calms down just because Anna says so. WTF? Once a mob gets into a rioting mood, I'd think it would take more than that to make them settle down. And if I heard that right, Dr. Sidney discovered a mass grave of mainly human bones and didn't report it to the authorities!?!?

I like the look of the V's - not over-the-top lizardface naaasty but just nasty enough. Like a velociraptor cousin of ET.

No---sci-fi shows struggle because most of them are boring pieces of crap that don't have interesting characters, sharp writing, original ideas, tight storytelling and a pitch perfect pace.

You ever try watching non-sci-fi shows? Most of them are boring pieces of crap that don't have interesting characters, sharp writing, original ideas, tight storytelling and a pitch perfect pace, even the ones that do very well in the ratings.

The big story about last night's show seems to have been missed by a lot of people. When the heck did Rockne s O'Bannon of Farscape become one of the show's producers?

That may be why the show suddenly is veering into Farscape-ish grossout/nasty/funness?

Ratings report for V.

No drop-off from where they left off before the hiatus (in May - you don't see audience loyalty like that very often), didn't lose any audience during the hour, and better demo than ABC's other two shows for the night - could be worse.

I nominate Guy Gardner to take over the writing on this show.

 

[Amaris]

^ I'm still convinced that Anna has some kind of mental effect on most of the humans. It would make sense that perhaps some of that bliss that is wired for her people, might work on the reptilian aspects of our own brains.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I say this with all sincerity: "Lower."

 

[The Habs Fan]

I give this episode an Above Average.

Tyler is still annoying as ever and the writing is still unrealistic at times, but it was better than most of the episodes last season.

The big story about last night's show seems to have been missed by a lot of people. When the heck did Rockne s O'Bannon of Farscape become one of the show's producers? I'm watching the episode through an alternate method due to falling asleep before it aired last night, and I had to go back and "rewind" to see if I'd read that correctly. I don't remember him being involved in season 1.

I noticed that credit too. Hopefully he writes one of the 10 episodes this season.

 

[Amaris]

I say this with all sincerity: "Lower."

I stand corrected.

 

[Gil T.Azell]

Wasn't there a lot of people wishing they would show more of Laura Vandervoot in her underwear? See? The producers really are listening!

Hell if i were in that scene with here I'd f had a huge 'Cubby' she was

Fuck! Tyler's not dead!
And Jane Badler is still hot...

yeah but there is hope maybe Lisa will do him, then eat him?

She looks very good for 57.

 

[Gepard]

yeah but there is hope maybe Lisa will do him, then eat him?

Actually...

Spoiler: Tyler's fate.

Someone I know on the show told me that a queen egg that survived the end of last season is going to hatch into "Lisa 2.0," and somewhere towards the end of the season, she'll fuck him and bite his head off. I've not seen anything to confirm this first-hand, though, so take it for what it's worth.

 

[Amaris]

yeah but there is hope maybe Lisa will do him, then eat him?

Actually...

Spoiler: Tyler's fate.

Someone I know on the show told me that a queen egg that survived the end of last season is going to hatch into "Lisa 2.0," and somewhere towards the end of the season, she'll fuck him and bite his head off. I've not seen anything to confirm this first-hand, though, so take it for what it's worth.

...still worth it.

 

[Guy Gardener]

So Lisa has a human vagina on her "suit" but it's not attached to any real plumbing... WAIT! Then how did NuWillie knock up Skelletor?

 

[Gepard]

^An question even more difficult to answer now that USA Today has put up an image of what the full Visitor is going to look like. How that's even supposed to fit in a human suit is hard to explain.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

^An question even more difficult to answer now that USA Today has put up an image of what the full Visitor is going to look like. How that's even supposed to fit in a human suit is hard to explain.

Think Slitheen.


I have a couple questions, since I've never watched the new V.

Was there an indication in season 1 of any connection to the 1983/1985 series' ?

And now, is Badler playing the same Diana from 1983/1985 ?

And if there is a connection, how does everyone on Earth not remember the first & second invasions ? The same forgetfulness from Doctor Who ?

 

[Guy Gardener]

No connection.

but they're been there on earth in secret for decades.

 

[Vendikarr]

^An question even more difficult to answer now that USA Today has put up an image of what the full Visitor is going to look like. How that's even supposed to fit in a human suit is hard to explain.

Think Slitheen.


I have a couple questions, since I've never watched the new V.

Was there an indication in season 1 of any connection to the 1983/1985 series' ?

And now, is Badler playing the same Diana from 1983/1985 ?

And if there is a connection, how does everyone on Earth not remember the first & second invasions ? The same forgetfulness from Doctor Who ?

There is no connection to the old series. Badler is playing a new character. They gave it the same name for nostalgia's sake.

 

[Tom]

Diana is from the V prime universe. LOL

 

[Witterquick]

The short first season and subsequent hiatus makes a perfect opportunity to recast Tyler. I'm bummed they didn't. I think V is turning out to be a very accessible show for non-scifi folks.

 

[I Grok Spock]

^An question even more difficult to answer now that USA Today has put up an image of what the full Visitor is going to look like. How that's even supposed to fit in a human suit is hard to explain.

Where does she keep that tail?

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Interesting that the V's have

Spoiler: image

insectoid looks and not just lizardy, befitting their social structure - maybe the assumption that they're anything to do with reptiles is wrong - if you enlarged a preying mantis, you might get something like a V.

 

[Tom]

Maybe i missed something but did that whole armarda of ships arrive? Are they all just sitting near earth?

 

[melancholymecha]

^An question even more difficult to answer now that USA Today has put up an image of what the full Visitor is going to look like. How that's even supposed to fit in a human suit is hard to explain.

Where does she keep that tail?

retractable? yeah I dunno...
I like the design but it would have made more sense if the Vs could shapeshift somehow...

 

[startrekwatcher]

Maybe i missed something but did that whole armarda of ships arrive? Are they all just sitting near earth?

The episode explicited state that the Vs were going to download their software into Earth's computer systems so they could prevent them from detecting the massive fleet.