USS Titan 3D pic????

[NiteTrek]

Titan Designer said:
As I recall the original Jefferies schematics where design with the nacell pointing down, and where acidentlly viewed upside down and sign off. That is how the
Enterprise ended up in the configuration.

IF (and that's a big IF) there is any truth to that claim, the bottom line is that it looked better with nacelles facing up and that's the design that was signed off. I've also seen early drafts of the Enterprise that looked absolutely nothing like the final design. No nacelles, nothing. It doesn't mean it was a better design, just the opposite.

By the way, is your nick accurate? Are you really the Titan's designer? If so, I can understand your defensiveness and I will say "contratulations" on your design being chosen. Now, the question is, will we ever see it on screen?

 

[Cary L. Brown]

NiteTrek said:

Titan Designer said:
As I recall the original Jefferies schematics where design with the nacell pointing down, and where acidentlly viewed upside down and sign off. That is how the
Enterprise ended up in the configuration.

IF (and that's a big IF) there is any truth to that claim, the bottom line is that it looked better with nacelles facing up and that's the design that was signed off. I've also seen early drafts of the Enterprise that looked absolutely nothing like the final design. No nacelles, nothing. It doesn't mean it was a better design, just the opposite.

By the way, is your nick accurate? Are you really the Titan's designer? If so, I can understand your defensiveness and I will say "contratulations" on your design being chosen. Now, the question is, will we ever see it on screen?

I believe that the statement re: Enterprise having been done both ways is... PARTIALLY true. There was another version sketched (you can see the sketch both in the paperback "The Making of Star Trek" (from waaaay back in the 1960s, but still available today) and in, as I recall, the coffeetable book "The Art of Star Trek" (from about a decade ago, I think, and hard to find... but I have it in my bookcase).

What really happened was that an earlier version of the ship design DID have the nacelles underneath, coming right off the primary hull, and with a "pod" with antennas fore and aft coming off the centerline of the TOP of the primary hull. As I remember reading the story, this version got a "consider" approval from Roddenberry, as did the "spherical primary hull" design (which is now widely recognized as the Daedalus class from Pre-TOS). Elements of both were blended to make the "near final" with the engines coming off the secondary hull (like the Daedalus) but with the proportions and shapes being much more like the other version (which as far as I know is still unnamed... ???)

So, Sean's assertion is true (doing my best Alec Guinness voice) "from a certain point of view."

 

[Titan Designer]

By the way, is your nick accurate? Are you really the Titan's designer? If so, I can understand your defensiveness and I will say "contratulations" on your design being chosen. Now, the question is, will we ever see it on screen?

Yes my nick name is accurate. My design was choosen as the winner
of the Design the Titan Contest that Pocket Books held last Year. Cary's Design was also in the Top 4 behind my design.

She was choosen out of about 200 designs, which I wish we could see more of them here besides mine a Cary's.

 

[NiteTrek]

Cary L. Brown said:
I believe that the statement re: Enterprise having been done both ways is... PARTIALLY true. There was another version sketched (you can see the sketch both in the paperback "The Making of Star Trek" (from waaaay back in the 1960s, but still available today)

Yes, I'm not disputing the fact that there were earlier sketches with the downward pointing nacelles, I've seen the sketchbook. What I'm questioning is the assertion that the downward pointing nacelles version was supposed to have been the final version but was "accidentally" flipped and then signed off. Now there may have been an "accidental" flip somewhere along the lines but the upward nacelles design was determined to look better and was chosen.

 

[NiteTrek]

Titan Designer said:

Yes my nick name is accurate. My design was choosen as the winner of the Design the Titan Contest that Pocket Books held last Year.

That's really cool. Did you have any "requirements" that you had to go by or were you allowed to do anything you wanted? Also, do you have any other versions that you created before you chose your final one?

 

[Titan Designer]

Here is the link to the Rule that the had for the contest

http://www.simonsays.com/content/feature.cfm?sid=44&feature_id=2893

Check out these links for more info from the Contest Results.

http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=5087684&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1

http://www.simonsays.com/content/feature.cfm?sid=44&feature_id=4347

http://bbs.simonsays.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=003830

 

[Starscape]

What's all the nonsense about the nacelles pointing down? It looks to me like they point forward.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to the eventual unveiling of the Titan. Titan Designer your sneak-preview avatars have been driving me mad - I want to see a proper shot of the Titan!!!!!!

Oh, and congratulations on the win.

 

[AlexR]

Titan Designer said:
We have been over this, and it is your right to that opinion, but there are others that really like her.

I'm one of them. The Luna-class has quickly become one of my favorite latter-era designs.

Best,
Alex

 

[Titan Designer]

AlexR said:

Titan Designer said:
We have been over this, and it is your right to that opinion, but there are others that really like her.

I'm one of them. The Luna-class has quickly become one of my favorite latter-era designs.

Best,
Alex

I am glad she has won you over. :thumbsup:

 

[pleschga]

Maybe if we all jump up and down, shout, and cry at the same time, Marco will post the images?

Works for my 6 yr old niese with her parents, anyway.....

On the count of thre folks.....

1....
2....
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MARCO!!!! WE WANT TITAN IN ALL HER 3D GLORY!!!!!!

 

[nx1701g]

pleschga said:
Maybe if we all jump up and down, shout, and cry at the same time, Marco will post the images?

Works for my 6 yr old niese with her parents, anyway.....

On the count of thre folks.....

1....
2....
3....


MARCO!!!! WE WANT TITAN IN ALL HER 3D GLORY!!!!!!

I don't think that it worked...

 

[pleschga]

Welll...worth a shot anyway.

 

[Julio Angel Ortiz]

pleschga said:
Welll...worth a shot anyway.

I'm dying to see it too. I wonder what the hold up is.

 

[Cary L. Brown]

Julio Angel Ortiz said:

pleschga said:
Welll...worth a shot anyway.

I'm dying to see it too. I wonder what the hold up is.

The hold up is that the S&S folks think that by keeping this "under wraps" (so to speak) they'll somehow get better sales for the book.

In other words, they're treating it as a marketing gimmick. But, IMHO, they're dead wrong... the more "pre-book BUZZ" they could get, the better the book series would probably sell.

But don't let the "publishing types" hear that I said that. After all, I'm not in publishing myself, so my opinion is not worthy of being heard. (sarcasm mode: OFF)

 

[Julio Angel Ortiz]

Cary L. Brown said:

Julio Angel Ortiz said:

pleschga said:
Welll...worth a shot anyway.

I'm dying to see it too. I wonder what the hold up is.

The hold up is that the S&S folks think that by keeping this "under wraps" (so to speak) they'll somehow get better sales for the book.

In other words, they're treating it as a marketing gimmick. But, IMHO, they're dead wrong... the more "pre-book BUZZ" they could get, the better the book series would probably sell.

But don't let the "publishing types" hear that I said that. After all, I'm not in publishing myself, so my opinion is not worthy of being heard. (sarcasm mode: OFF)

But the book is a year away. I just don't see how unveiling a book cover would really affect sales. I could be wrong, of course.

 

[Rally_man]

So, where exactly is this pic everyone is commenting on?

 

[Titan Designer]

That is the point. Pocket was supposed to reveal it at Shore Leave and the San Diego Comic Con. Then they where supposed to post it but they have
not. I pesonally have a copy of it since I created the ship and had a friend make the 3D mesh, but Pocket has not alowed us to post any angle of her
since they have not posted the cover image yet.

 

[mayhemuk]

I cant wait to see her, she has slowly grown on me, and im hoping that someone will make a version of her for starfleet command and bridge commander to.

 

[Cary L. Brown]

Well, if Sean can release the 3D model to the 'net (or to those of us with access to 3D software) it should be a trivial thing to convert it to lower-polygon-count versions for those games...

S&S/PPC could prevent that, but again, that would be sheer stupidity, giving up free advertising. The more people who know the design of the ship, the more attention that their "niche market" Titan series books will garner among the fans (which is really their only market these days anyway).

Short of a "Titan" movie, titan TV special, or Titan model on Walmart's model-kit shelf, I can't really see the attention moving into what most publishers would consider "mainstream." Maybe I'm wrong... be nice if I were... but I don't think it's likely.

 

[Tomalak]

Someone was doing the Titan for BC, but seems to have dried up.