Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by Gojira, May 19, 2017.
Just reboot Star Trek as a Dieselpunk space opera. Problem solved.
While I understand those that enjoy the JJA films, I'm at a loss as to why people seem to want to take Trek 100 years or more into the future where there's even more technobabble to explain everything, the ship is one big weapon, and the crew are Mary and Gary Sues, or they are holographic (as they were in a SNW anthology story once.) I grew up on TOS and I enjoy the remastered seasons, but it doesn't need to be fiddled with so much all the 'spirit' is gone.
It's almost as if the term "Trekkies" applies to a very broad group of people with wildly varying interests, preferences, and sensibilities!
I say, let's look at the distant past of the Trek universe instead of continuing to go forward in time.
Let's see Earth thousands of years ago, with humans interacting with aliens posing as gods, such as Apollo. It would be like a fictional version of Ancient Aliens.
Um... you know what I mean.
SPOCK (raising eyebrow): Fascinating.
MCCOY: It's inhuman!
KIRK: I like it!
Yeah, their tinkering with the palette to mute color tones and make it all shades of blah makes the TNG "beige hotel in space" look like a unicorn vomiting burning bright rainbows by comparison.
TNG lasted seven, would have had eight if the makers didn't go to DS9 (which doesn't bother me too much, DS9 is phenomenal - starting fairly solid in even its earliest days and only skyrocketing from there.)
Would that have to be Trek?
What if it was another popular alien show?
We could have episodes where Starfleet people end up traveling back in time to the setting of the show.
That was actually the premise of the 1968 fanfic story "Visit to a Weird Planet." Kirk, Spock and McCoy somehow find themselves transported to the Star Trek set at Desilu Studios!
They were filming one set over from Wormhole X-Treme!
I love it. As far as I'm concerned, so long as the original is available (albeit with the sound & picture cleaned up to the best possible quality) for die-hard fans, absolutely go to town with it. I've been hoping for this for ages. Or to put it another way. 'CBS: Here's my money!'.
As long as the original remains available is great, but I would love to see them do the entire series like this video.
I'm not just talking about the space shots ro 'redressing' sets I'm also talking about looped dialogue. For instance in 'Tomorrow is Yesterday' when Uhura picks up the news broadcast I'd actually replace that with one that actually references Apollo 11.
That sounds great! I'd like to see that too!!
But where do we draw the line?
That line gets pushed too far, and we could be practically adding fanfilm connect the dots crap to TOS.....
This pushes it way too close to a re-imagining, where (with the wrong people in charge), you could see fanwankery under the guise of creating "story arcs" or something.
People already connect Naked Time to Tomorrow is Yesterday, City on the Edge of Forever to the Mirror Universe, Trelane as a Q, Nomad with a Borg connection, etc....
Are we going to give the Klingon's ridges? Wait, ENT messed that one up.
For that matter, how many callbacks to ENT should there be in this new redone TOS?
Reverse Galaxy Quest!
Also, an episode of Supernatural. Heh.
Obviously for reasons of consistency, the holodeck scenes in TNG's 'Relics' would receive the same treatment as would 'Trials & Tribble-ations' & 'Through a Mirror Darkly'. In 'Metamorphosis' in the 'cabin' Cochrane's built, there could be a model of the Phoenix in warp flight configuration and a picture of him & Lily Sloan circa 'ST: First Contact' as well as one of him with Henry Archer. Somewhere on the Enterprise, perhaps the briefing room there could be ships' models of prior Enterprises such as CV-6, CVN-65 & CVN-80 as well as the sailing ship from 'ST: Generations' & of course the NX-01. In 'The Ultimate Computer' the episode could begin with the Enterprise going into Spacedock ala 'ST III: The Search For Spock' and Commodore Wesley's battle fleet in the same episode could include other ships from the Franz Joseph 'Starfleet Technical Manual' or possibly a TOS-era Miranda class ship.
As for where we draw the line, so long as the die-hards have easy access to high quality copies of the originals then anything goes as far as I'm concerned.
Further to my previous post I'd like to see the seen in 'The Cage'/'The Menagerie Part 2' where the Talosians access the computers on the Enterprise and breeze through their records to be updated and included stills from ENT & DSC and images of figures from Star Trek's past such as Khan, Colonel Green, Surak et al.
On the looping of dialogue I'd like to smooth over inconsistencies with what had been established in the various incarnations of the show. For instance in 'That Which Survives' I think it pretty implausible the ship could travel 1,000 light-years in a matter of hours. Perhaps it could be changed to ten? In 'Let That be your Last Battlefield' perhaps Bele could have been pursuing Lokai for fifty years instead of 50,000? There were also a couple of times in season 3 where courses were given that exceeded the 360 x 360 system. These looped examples could all be done by taking numbers spoken by the relevant cast members in other episodes.
While I would like to see something like this from a technical curiosity point of view, what is immediately apparent to me from that short clip is how little the updated visuals add. Maybe one episode, a one off special, but I doubt the new stuff would pull me in for the whole run.
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