You can just make your original point again or address my rebuttal. The fact is, no giant alien ship in TOS or TAS was ever portrayed with nacelles. Size was used to show advanced technology. Every ship similar in size to Enterprise was shown with nacelles. Similar size was shown to infer similar technology. You can choose to conflate the two, but you are then debating yourself and not what I wrote.
Fesarius' cube probe was of similar size to Enterprise but had no nacelles. Fesarius' small ship had no nacelles. Same size or smaller ships having advanced technology and no nacelles. Why does size need to equate technology?
Again, Botany Bay was designed without nacelles for Space Seed because it was meant to fulfill the requirements of a script saying it was launched from a launch pad 25 years after the show was being broadcast and when the United States was using rockets and not ships with nacelles. The SFX from Space Seed were reused for economy’s sake, not because they fulfilled the needs of the script. How do we know this? Because we are told as much, and that even the DY-500 is considered ancient and barely recognizable by the time of TOS, while the ship in Ultimate Computer is described as an ore freighter that has been fully automated with modern technology. Even if we are to believe the original ore ship was a 1996 Earth-launched, pre-Zefram Cochrane transport, nothing was done to portray the changes stated in the script. It by all appearances is still a simple, atomic powered, transport capable of travel within the inner Solar System. So, it doesn’t have nacelles because the SFX were reused, and/or the needs of the script - portraying it as utterly helpless and incapable of escaping - wouldn’t have demanded it have warp drive.
Again, I agreed that Botany Bay didn't need nacelles because it was primitive ship according to the script. And since a descendant of it is in operation in "The Ultimate Computer" without nacelles it would tell us that not all ships need nacelles in TOS.
I put the image there for people to decide for themselves whether it is a definite shape as you claim, or a blob that can be read any number of ways. Your eyes may see it as a definite shape, but if it were meant to be a definite shape, I’m pretty sure a model would have been built and not a knife scratching some film stock.
Even blobs can be recreated in detail, if you're willing to pay attention.
Which is excellent thinking for Jefferies regarding non-alien ships like the Enterprise. What does he say for alien ships since alien ships in season 1 have no nacelles unless the script required it?
Why do you keep insisting on substituting your own preferences for what he is trying to do, when he has already said what he is trying to do?
Probably the same reason why you're responding to my observations about the Season 1 ships. If Warped9 really was trying to not be influenced by future stuff then it should be a simple and honest assessment of what shown up to that point in Season 1 of TOS rather than making up excuses for why almost every alien ship had no nacelles up that point. Still, I've said many times before, just design for the future battlecruiser as we already have thoughts from Jefferies regarding this and don't pretend to arrive to where MJ was thinking. YMMV
