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Yesterday's Enterprise - but with the NCC 1701-A instead of the C

Only from a Tasha Yar stand point. Again, the thread starter's premise then my comments that such a premise may mean Tasha never joined Starfleet, combined means the episode would have to have been different. Outcomes and the point of the episode would be different. Yar is not the end-all be-all of a reformulating an episode's idea for fan speculation.
I don't think Tasha was that impactful.

It would be more impactful for the series, if they somehow worked it to where Kirk's daughter was Sila, and that Kirk was captured by the Romulans (presumed dead, but he escaped somehow and is wanted, or missing, etc).
 
I don't think Tasha was that impactful.

It would be more impactful for the series, if they somehow worked it to where Kirk's daughter was Sila, and that Kirk was captured by the Romulans (presumed dead, but he escaped somehow and is wanted, or missing, etc).
... could anyone see a scenario where it was Spock's pissed off Romulan Commander keeping him hostage, in a VERY love/hate revenge story? lol.
 
I think the biggest challenge in this hypothetical scenario would be figuring out an explanation as to why Kirk would be the only member of the TOS cast to end up on the Ent-A when it goes forward in time. Especially if the Ent-A was being attacked by Romulans before it disappeared.

I still think the perfect moment would be taking them away from their Star Trek VI hero moment, and after both Gorkon and the Federation President are dead, and Kirk and his crew is MISSING, never to be heard from again, there was no way to salvage peace. Then you get the entire crew for the fun crossover moments, and with proper attention paid, you get Nimoy and Kelley back for one last event.
 
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They actually did my idea somewhat in TNG, where Scotty was featured in "Relics". I could easily have seen them doing something with the other crew members, such as Kirk. I know that we saw Kirk and Picard in "Generations", but I would have wanted to see them interact on the Enterprise D.
 
I think there was some regret among producers that they didn't keep this idea for a movie later on down the road. I don't think it would have worked on a TV budget but on a movie budget it would have been great and a perfect way to crossover crews and give the Enterprise A a fitting send off. The only problem is they might not have ended the same way since McCoy is still around in TNG and future episodes had Spock and Scotty. It would probably work better with just Kirk going back with the Enterprise A and thus answering the big mystery of his absence in TNG.
I disagree that this would have been a good idea for a movie. The biggest problem is that the TNG cast plays alternate versions of their characters, you can do that in one out of 26 episodes in a tv season but not in a movie.
There's also no chance they would have send the Enterprise-A back to be destroyed but without that the entire dilemma evaporates, if they didn't escape certain death at the last moment why would the TOS crew even consider staying in the future? Realistically they'd turn on the engines and go back the first chance they get.
There's also no chance they would have included Tasha in a movie version, she'd just eat up screen time the other TNG characters desperately need with a bloated 14 people combined TOS/TNG crew.

But without the timeline changing to include the regular TNG characters, no Tasha and doing away with the certain death angle for the past crew the story changes so much it wouldn't be Yesterday's Enterprise anymore.
 
Ok, so let's look at this from an in-real-life chronological angle, and see what we come up with.

If we go with the idea that this alternate version of "Yesterday's Enterprise" would have been produced the same time as the actual episode (1990), then the last time we would have seen the TOS crew was a year before in STV: The Final Frontier. So the writers of the episode would have had to come up with a date sometime after TFF when the Enterprise-A would have disappeared. They would also have had to come up with a reason why nobody else from the TOS crew other than Kirk would have been on the ship when it disappeared, if they went with the idea that they'd only focus on Kirk. But if they used the whole TOS crew, then they would have had to explain why all these geriatrics are still serving with Kirk on the Enterprise (which is why it would have to take place not long after TFF.) And they would have had to come up with the circumstances of the ship's actual disappearance.

So we can't use anything that came after 1990 production-wise as source material, because having YE be about the Ent-A would have changed everything production-wise going forward from that point. So essentially it would look like this:

1. 1989: Star Trek: The Final Frontier: If YE only focused on Kirk, then this would presumably be the final on-screen appearances of Spock, McCoy, Sulu, Chekov, Uhura and Scotty. Since McCoy had a cameo in EaF, he would be the only character whose fate we would know. And if YE focused on the entire crew, then this would be the final TOS film.

2. 1990: "Yesterday's Enterprise" featuring Kirk on the Enterprise-A. Essentially the same plot, we have the Enterprise-A with Kirk aboard being thrown forward in time to an alternate future where the Federation is at war with the Klingons, and alternate Picard deduces that they need to send the Enterprise-A back to the late 2280's to prevent the war from ever starting, despite it being a suicide mission. If the entire TOS crew were involved, then the writers would need to figure out things for all of them to do in a 50-minute episode to justify them being there. And at the end, the Ent-A and all her crew return to the 2280's and imminent death. So no TUC, no Relics, no Generations, etc., etc. because we now know that nobody survived the A going back, except inexplicably for McCoy because he was already established as being alive at the start of TNG. And even if they only focused on Kirk, then he'd still be dead when the Ent-A returns, so the only story they could have done was a modified version of Relics where Scotty would already have known that Kirk was dead based on this version of YE. And, let's not forget, the entire plot of Yar (A TNG character, not TOS) getting a second chance of a more meaningful death is completely erased from this version, which was one of the dramatic selling points of YE.

None of these scenarios sound all that interesting to me. Kirk would have completely overshadowed everything, only to find out that he's not even interacting with the TNG crew we know, just alternate versions of them, and then we'd find out that Kirk and/or the entire TOS crew die horrible deaths when they return.

So even if this hypothetical scenario actually happened, I believe it would have turned out much worse that what we actually got. And what we actually got was pretty damn good.
 
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