Unseen TOS....
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While perusing the net I came across a couple of Romulan War Earth ship designs from something called Pacific 201. One was an interesting take on the Daedalus-class and the other was a combat patrol ship. They were done to be consistent with ENT design aesthetics (lots of greebling), but the general concepts were very interesting. They don’t look much Jefferies-esque, but I really appreciate the thinking put into them.
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The design work on 201 was excellent, and in line with the more archaic feel, but yes to the ENT design reference. I just liked it overall.
There is a good one here:
https://forums.scifi-meshes.com/discussion/comment/2030848#Comment_2030848
https://forums.scifi-meshes.com/discussion/comment/2030848#Comment_2030848
Secondary hull and nacelles are good.
Yes, I remember seeing that one some years back. It’s another well done work.
I like that it (apparently) has two clusters of impulse rockets. I mean, yeah, it's cool that the engineering hull can have flames coming out the back of it (see the cover art by James Bama to James Blish's first Star Trek novelization [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_(Bantam_Books), https://www.startrek.com/article/james-bamas-trek]). But it also draws a red circle around what has always been an issue with the Constitution-class design regarding both sparsity of impulse rockets and the stardrive section not having impulse rockets of its own.
For some reason, when I view the Pacific's dome it reminds me of a Droid. I prefer my Star Trek to be more in line with Star Trek designs, and I agree with you it doesn't look much like Matt Jefferies.
Illustrator Mark Farinas did a prequel comic book where he constructed a story about a Daedalus crew. He also drew up ship designs where he depicts his vision of what the Romulans ships may have looked like. For me, I think it's accurate to what I believe those vessels looked like. IMO very Matt Jefferies.You might've seen this before, but when I did an Earth-Romulan war game pitch for Playmates I used that Jein model (archived here) as a starting point. You can see something like it in the top game mockup...
...which led to the sketches below... at the upper left of which is another class of ship of in that vein, which I showed to Andy Probert who suggested it might make a better fighter, so I ran with that.
http://trekcomic.com/no-good-deed-page-1/
Er, the Romulan ship in that comic is the same ship that Greg Jein designed for the Star Trek Chronology (other than the dreadnought, which is also clearly based on Jein's design.)
OH!!! He's a member of this forum??? Oh wow, I stand corrected.You mean @Mark 2000 .
@Mark 2000 I meant, you are a great artist and I value your take of TOS. I wish the studios would have a sense of nostalgia and respect for Matt Jefferies work like you did.
OH!!! That is interesting. Its a wonderful design.
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/reliant-an-early-earth-starship.292329/
Here's another really good Daedalus like design.
Here's another really good Daedalus like design.
Meh. Too many working parts, one of the major reasons I loved Jefferies designs was because they looked sleek and smooth. Something which honored the flying saucers from the 1950's, less constructed and more mysterious - alien in origin.https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/reliant-an-early-earth-starship.292329/
Here's another really good Daedalus like design.
This is a quote from Shaw in another thread. It is so on point.
See? That was well said. So glad to see there are fans who actually understands.
Looking back where I had explored this previously.
Many years ago this was a concept for the Valiant I worked up in Photoshop.
I essentially took the hull of the spaceship Luna from the 1950 film Destination: Moon and started playing with it. At the time I didn't think too much about it beyond that. My basic idea was the Valiant was initially a fast relativistic ship that was fitted with an early form of space warp drive. I like the name used in the Trek novel Federation where it's referred to as a superimpeller. My thinking was that in the early years of interstellar starflight different configurations were experimented with to find an optimal design rather than assuming two nacelles were always there from the beginning and throughout until the present.
My revised version of the Valiant was worked up as a 3D model sometime later. Although the ringship idea is not something we as fans saw until the ringship Enterprise glimpsed in TMP it is an idea Matt Jefferies explored while working his way toward a final design for the Enterprise. So it’s not inconceivable MJ could reuse the ringship concept for an older Earth ship.
Awesome work!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art
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