Unrealized Stories From Throwaway Lines

[Dryson]

Other overlooked stories that can be built upon are scenes from Trek movies and shows.

Take for example the drug addicted soldiers from Earth's WWIII. We can only assume that drug use on Earth was eradicated after humans developed their own warp drive. But in reality, some humans, still hanging onto the aspect of wealth, could very well have smuggled illegal drugs aboard a starship and then settled elsewhere in the galaxy to build their own illegal drug network.

Federation Narco Fleets chasing down illegal drug smugglers would make for an interesting three season show.

In fact, there could be many new shows that could be written about early pirates using Starfleet as a means of expanding their Earth based criminal empires. Criminal empires that could have been linked to early encounters with alien species that created future battlefields between Earth and aliens.

One such tale could involve early warp capable ships crewed by humans and loaded with illegal drugs from Earth or a secret base that encountered the Orions.

 

[Oddish]

Or maybe they set up hippie communes on some moon or other, preferably next to a big multi-hued gas giant so they can watch the swirling colors in the atmosphere while puffing away. Better than any lava lamp, I'll wager.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Starfleet using sentient EMHs as slave labour in dilithium mines, and then later having their off-brand Data clones work on Mars is something that REALLY needs addressing. The Federation have created their own slave caste with the ability to suffer.

 

[Orphalesion]

I'm definitely not interested in "three season show of Federation Narco fleets chasing down drug smugglers"
I'm not interested in police dramas.

But not having things like human space pirate factions and things like that was one of ENT's huge failures. That shoudl have been a recurring element right from the beginning and should have put Mayweather in a prominent role, since he grew up among early, pre-Federation space travellers and would probably know a lot about how that culture, including it's shady elements, work. He'd be the one who'd know all the cultural dos and don't, who might be connected to whom, the slang etc.

 

[Farscape One]

A thread in the TOS board reminded me of something.

Fizzbin... from "A PIECE OF THE ACTION", it was a game made up by Kirk to get himself, Spock, and McCoy out of captivity. But the Iotians were a VERY imitative race, so it's easy to see the game actually be spread throughout the planet.

In DS9's "THE ASCENT", Quark is trying to get Odo to play a game of Fizzbin. It seems to me that the Iotians achieved interstellar travel fairly quickly after the TOS episode. (The transtator from the communicator left behind was the basis of all the Enterprise's technology at that time.)

I wonder what those years were like for the Iotians, because they went from gangsters to space travelers in a very short time.

I think some stories could have come from that.

 

[Orphalesion]

It seems to me that the Iotians achieved interstellar travel fairly quickly after the TOS episode.

That, or the Ferengi took over their planet.

In any case it would be interesting to know 1) whether they are part of the Ferengi Alliance 2)whether they still dress in stereotypical 1920s fashion by the time of the 24th century and while having warp capable ships.

 

[Farscape One]

I wouldn't be surprised if they all dressed like Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. (And redshirts, since Krako was beamed aboard and saw them.)

If the Ferengi did take over... likely dresses on their style.

 

[Markonian]

The SCE novels included an Iotian security crewman. In TrekLit, the Iotians modernized but retained their 1920s-era cultural affectations.

Most recently, Iotian gangsters appeared in the Picard novel Rogue Elements.

Imho, seeing them as TOS-era Starfleet cosplayers would've been amusing in TNG. But that ship has sailed and I'd rather see them keep their most memorable appearance - that as Chicagoers - instead of adapting to a new style every time they make contact with somebody.

 

[Paul Weaver]

to aid millions, one person had to be thrown under the bus.

How many people does it take, Admiral, before it becomes wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million?

 

[Locutus of Bored]

But not having things like human space pirate factions and things like that was one of ENT's huge failures. That shoudl have been a recurring element right from the beginning and should have put Mayweather in a prominent role, since he grew up among early, pre-Federation space travellers and would probably know a lot about how that culture, including it's shady elements, work. He'd be the one who'd know all the cultural dos and don't, who might be connected to whom, the slang etc.

While not human, there are several episodes overtly involving piracy of some sort, and others where communications are unable to be established so the alien's ultimate motives remain unknown, but could involve piracy. These are just a sample, but by no means all the episodes featuring piracy:

ENT 1x10 Fortunate Son -- Travis takes a central role when Nausicaan pirates attack an Earth Cargo Service ship and its crew seeks revenge.

ENT 2x06 Marauders -- Klingon pirates steal dilithium from a mining colony until Archer teaches the colonists how to defend themselves.

ENT 3x17 Damage -- The tables are turned when the Enterprise crew, in a moment of desperation, become the pirates themselves and leave a friendly alien crew stranded at sublight three years from home when they steal their engine parts.

ENT 4x04 Borderland -- Orion Syndicate pirates take several Enterprise crew prisoner to sell at a slave auction.

ENT 4x17 Bound -- Orion Syndicate pirates try and take the Enterprise hostage through manipulating them with their "slave" (it's revealed they are actually in charge) dancer's pheromones.

 

[Oddish]

How many people does it take, Admiral, before it becomes wrong? A thousand? Fifty thousand? A million?

Apparently more than just one. Or three, as the case was.

 

[Tuskin38]

The Federation have created their own slave caste with the ability to suffer.

The holograms perhaps, but the androids on mars weren't sentient and weren't capable of being sentient. They mention that in the season.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The EMH and Vic Fontaine are the only sentient holograms we've seen (so far).

 

[Oddish]

The EMH and Vic Fontaine are the only sentient holograms we've seen (so far).

I would add Moriarty to the list.

 

[Tuskin38]

The EMH and Vic Fontaine are the only sentient holograms we've seen (so far).

If the Doctor can be, then probably all EMH MK1s can.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I would add Moriarty to the list.

Whoopsies! I forgot about him

 

[F. King Daniel]

The holograms perhaps, but the androids on mars weren't sentient and weren't capable of being sentient. They mention that in the season.

No, they mention it in the tie-in novel. In the season itself, they're implied to be Maddox's own versions of Data presumably capable of all he was.

 

[at Quark's]

The EMH and Vic Fontaine are the only sentient holograms we've seen (so far).

May depend on where you put the dividing line between sentience and non-sentience (or sapience vs non-sapience). Haley (dr. Zimmermann's holographic assistant) may have been sentient. The entire Irish village created on Voyager may have been, after Spirit Folk. At least to the extent they know they are holograms, can accept new input not compatible with their original holographic environment (e.g. 24th century concepts), and probably their memory isn't reset everytime the program is ended.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

I would add Moriarty to the list.

And Badgey

 

[1001001]

Dejaren seemed sentient too (Revulsion - VOY)