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Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by StametsFungi, May 15, 2019.

  1. Tiberous Q Data

    Tiberous Q Data Ensign Red Shirt

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    I had more reaction to Vulcan even though at least it exists in the Prime timeline though maybe Romulus will be saved in Kelvin and it sort of balance out in a twisted way.

    I figure I'm just more familiar with Vulcan and had to watch Spock stand there helpless as it happened.
     
  2. Tiberous Q Data

    Tiberous Q Data Ensign Red Shirt

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    Since virtually every character would be in violation of fratenization restrictions including the likes of Data and hidebound Worf with nary a word of concern about breaking any rules over 50 years of material. Any limitations seem completely personal in origin and few of them totally hard and fast.

    Even in 2019 it isn't always the thing it was once upon a time. My company doesn't expect anyone to even report a potential conflict of interest unless it is a direct supervisor scenario as far as I can tell.
     
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  3. Tenacity

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    it's a space fantasy show with zap guns, woman in revealing clothing, bullshit science and on rare occasions some meaningful social commentary (but not as often as it's reputation would have you believe).
    the term "concentration camps" suggests gas chambers and ovens. what exists on the border are simply jails. if congress were to vote in additional funding the conditions would be better. but then congress would not be able to point to the conditions on the border for political advantage.
     
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  4. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    Take it to PM, Misc, or TNZ. This is not the place.
     
  5. JirinPanthosa

    JirinPanthosa Vice Admiral Admiral

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    It’s both. If you’re comparing it to most “space fantasy shows with zap guns” and you’re not comparing it to high literature and hard sci-fi, it’s very cerebral and rarely black and white in terms of morality.

    Yes, they are concentration camps. They are not death camps. All death camps are concentration camps but not all concentration camps are death camps.

    If they were jails, as you say, all the detainees would have official charges against them and access to lawyers.
     
  6. MAGolding

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    The phrase "concentration camp" implies a camp where people from a wide area are gathered together in a smaller area and thus their population is concentrated within the camp.

    Theoretically a summer camp where children from a wide area arrive to spend the summer can be described as a concentration camp.

    I once read the phrase "concentration camp" used to describe a camp where United States Volunteers assembled to form companies and regiments and be mustered into service during the US Civil War, by a veteran describing his experiences during the war.

    The phrase "concentration camp" gained a sinister implication when those lying Nazis described their extermination camps as "concentration camps" to disguise their true purpose, but that true purpose was eventually discovered. So today no institution will ever describe any camps it may operate as "concentration camps" any more than an institution in western society would adopt a swastika as its new emblem.
     
  7. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    Did you guys not see my reply to @Tenacity ? How about the next person who posts the phrase "concentration camp" gets a Warning?
     
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  8. Vger23

    Vger23 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    So anyway...perhaps an unpopular Star Trek opinion would be welcome.... ;)

    I think the visual effects in the TOS movies become less-and-less impressive (except for a few choice shots) as they progress.
     
  9. Tenacity

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    ^ In a lot of shots, the Enterprise in The Final Frontier looked like a card-board cut out.
     
  10. fireproof78

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    I mean, TMP was designed as a VFX spectacle and I don't any of the following films had near the budget so that's probably true.

    However, I think that TUC has some of the best VFX in the TOS film series, especially the zero-g and final battle.
     
  11. FormerLurker

    FormerLurker Commodore Commodore

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    That's because in a lot of shots it was.
     
  12. Tenacity

    Tenacity Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    On the other hand the SFX in TWOK were pretty good.
     
  13. Lord Garth

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    I only agree up to a point. The films directed by Leonard Nimoy are unfortunately the ones that suffer here.
     
  14. Vger23

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    Really? See, I thought that TSFS looked pretty slick.
     
  15. Vger23

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    Good point, and the shot of the Enterprise leaving Earth orbit with Spacedock in the background is gorgeous.
     
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  16. FormerLurker

    FormerLurker Commodore Commodore

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    One of the main things that frustrates me about how bad the TFF effects are in general is the fact that TFF got the size difference between the BOP and the Enterprise correct, while SFS had the BOP way too big in comparison to the Big E.
     
  17. redr0bin

    redr0bin Ensign Newbie

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    Yup, hell, I'd argue that some fans have such slavish devotion to one-off lines and Roddenberry quotes that if they had their way Star Trek would be the most boring franchise in the world. The "no money" thing in particular gets me.