Ah, I'm late to the party, it seems. That's what you get for being a mod in 3 forums. I may have lost some of my sensitivity regarding cheap shots and insults thanks to the communication culture of my party (yes, I can go off-topic, too ) but that's very close to a flame (the part I bolded I mean). Please tone it down a notch or two. Thanks. Everyone, please get back on topic. While the EU can serve as an example for some aspects of a debate about an United Earth the discussion shouldn't turn into a pro and contra-debate about the EU or a discussion of certain EU politicians the way it has for the last two to three pages. Thanks.