UFP Anthem

[Nerys Ghemor]

Rush...this may be my personal opinion, but I don't think the song HAS lyrics. Somehow I think it's there to be nice, but not to really stir up patriotism. Because patriotism would equal nationalism in their book and that's what Cardassians do. Noooooooo, can't have THAT...

(Sorry...I've been cynical lately. I'm sure you understand.)

Agreed with this(are not all anthems nationalistic anyway) for the very good reason that the Cardassian interstellar anthem, 'Cardassia forever' would have lyrics just for the simple reason that Cardassians love to talk!

'sides you don't need to apologise for your cynicism, it's expected from a citizen of Cardassia

Indeed...there, it's quite valued. See? Yet another example of why I fit perfectly here.

(Yes, I said "here." Note my location field.)

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

If one is to write a Federation anthem, it is to be filled with judicious amounts of double speak and european imperialism disguised in a veneer of political correctness. The Cardassian anthem would of course be about how awesome the Union is - which it is. The Klingon anthem would be about killing and honor and all that stuff. Ferengi national anthem would be too expensive to license, so most Ferengi would make a similar-sounding song, but make sure its not a direct riff on it (like Secret Agent Man to the James Bond theme).

 

[Thor Damar]

Rush...this may be my personal opinion, but I don't think the song HAS lyrics. Somehow I think it's there to be nice, but not to really stir up patriotism. Because patriotism would equal nationalism in their book and that's what Cardassians do. Noooooooo, can't have THAT...

(Sorry...I've been cynical lately. I'm sure you understand.)

Agreed with this(are not all anthems nationalistic anyway) for the very good reason that the Cardassian interstellar anthem, 'Cardassia forever' would have lyrics just for the simple reason that Cardassians love to talk!

'sides you don't need to apologise for your cynicism, it's expected from a citizen of Cardassia

Indeed...there, it's quite valued. See? Yet another example of why I fit perfectly here.

(Yes, I said "here." Note my location field.)

Absolutely agreed. (although I'm in North Cardassia where it's a bit cooler). I think that Cynicism is one of the most valuable tools of any sentient being, which is why I don't trust any national anthem.

Also Rick-Rollin'? That's a war crime on Prime my friends, just one more reason why the Union rules!

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

Rick Rolling was banned by the Khitomer Accords, IIRC.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

If one is to write a Federation anthem, it is to be filled with judicious amounts of double speak and european imperialism disguised in a veneer of political correctness.

That's about it!

But personally, I think they'd be too PC for lyrics. Actually SAY something and you might offend...someone. Somewhere.

The Cardassian anthem would of course be about how awesome the Union is - which it is.

QFT!!!!!

The Klingon anthem would be about killing and honor and all that stuff.

Think Wagnerian opera, or Beowulf, and I think you've got it. (The Klingons in TNG/DS9 always struck me as Norsemen.)

Ferengi national anthem would be too expensive to license, so most Ferengi would make a similar-sounding song, but make sure its not a direct riff on it (like Secret Agent Man to the James Bond theme).

HAHAHAHA!

And I bet if you tried to download the real thing, the FCA would slap a Metallica-style lawsuit on you.

Agreed with this(are not all anthems nationalistic anyway) for the very good reason that the Cardassian interstellar anthem, 'Cardassia forever' would have lyrics just for the simple reason that Cardassians love to talk!

'sides you don't need to apologise for your cynicism, it's expected from a citizen of Cardassia

Indeed...there, it's quite valued. See? Yet another example of why I fit perfectly here.

(Yes, I said "here." Note my location field.)

Absolutely agreed. (although I'm in North Cardassia where it's a bit cooler). I think that Cynicism is one of the most valuable tools of any sentient being, which is why I don't trust any national anthem.

Indeed...keeps one vigilant. And safe.

However, I must point out something you said. You trust no national anthem? What about "Cardassia Forever"? I should hate to have to report you, citizen--but friendship cannot stand before the requirements of the State.

 

[Arpy]

Nah, that song sucked. Here's the real Federation Anthem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmMU...6E18B006&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=55

 

[Deranged Nasat]

Indeed...there, it's quite valued. See? Yet another example of why I fit perfectly here.

(Yes, I said "here." Note my location field.)

Absolutely agreed. (although I'm in North Cardassia where it's a bit cooler). I think that Cynicism is one of the most valuable tools of any sentient being, which is why I don't trust any national anthem.

Indeed...keeps one vigilant. And safe.

However, I must point out something you said. You trust no national anthem? What about "Cardassia Forever"? I should hate to have to report you, citizen--but friendship cannot stand before the requirements of the State.

Perhaps, Madam Agent, I may intrude and suggest Thor Damar was signifying how easily our glorious anthem could be corrupted by traitors or enemy aliens? Perhaps his lack of trust and cynical view of the anthem is simply a result of bitter experience of the hypocrisy of those who seem to hold it in regard only to undermine Cardassia elsewhere?

 

[Thor Damar]

Absolutely agreed. (although I'm in North Cardassia where it's a bit cooler). I think that Cynicism is one of the most valuable tools of any sentient being, which is why I don't trust any national anthem.

Indeed...keeps one vigilant. And safe.

However, I must point out something you said. You trust no national anthem? What about "Cardassia Forever"? I should hate to have to report you, citizen--but friendship cannot stand before the requirements of the State.

Perhaps, Madam Agent, I may intrude and suggest Thor Damar was signifying how easily our glorious anthem could be corrupted by traitors or enemy aliens? Perhaps his lack of trust and cynical view of the anthem is simply a result of bitter experience of the hypocrisy of those who seem to hold it in regard only to undermine Cardassia elsewhere?

As per usual Speaker Narsat of the Council is correct. As we have so often seen in the long and glorious history of our proud and noble union, there have been corrupt and weak fools who seek to rule the state rather than serve it. Those who take the message of 'Cardassia Forever' and turn it into license to use the Cardassian populace to their own selfish ends. Not to mention the outsiders who would see us bought down low and use the worse of us to that evil end.

It is the first duty of all Cardassians (and humans for that matter) to not trust those who demand blind obedience but to work for the advancement of the State and the people who are the true masters.
Let the Central Command, Detapa Council and the vanguard of the Obsidian Order lead the way.

Long Live Cardassia!

Gul Thor Damar.

 

[Deranged Nasat]

Indeed...keeps one vigilant. And safe.

However, I must point out something you said. You trust no national anthem? What about "Cardassia Forever"? I should hate to have to report you, citizen--but friendship cannot stand before the requirements of the State.

Perhaps, Madam Agent, I may intrude and suggest Thor Damar was signifying how easily our glorious anthem could be corrupted by traitors or enemy aliens? Perhaps his lack of trust and cynical view of the anthem is simply a result of bitter experience of the hypocrisy of those who seem to hold it in regard only to undermine Cardassia elsewhere?

As per usual Speaker Narsat of the Council is correct. As we have so often seen in the long and glorious history of our proud and noble union, there have been corrupt and weak fools who seek to rule the state rather than serve it. Those who take the message of 'Cardassia Forever' and turn it into license to use the Cardassian populace to their own selfish ends. Not to mention the outsiders who would see us bought down low and use the worse of us to that evil end.

It is the first duty of all Cardassians (and humans for that matter) to not trust those who demand blind obedience but to work for the advancement of the State and the people who are the true masters.
Let the Central Command, Detapa Council and the vanguard of the Obsidian Order lead the way.

Long Live Cardassia!

Gul Thor Damar.

Oh wow, I've been bestowed a position in service to Cardassia by my esteemed superiors Thor Damar and Nerys Ghemor! . I'm honoured to be accepted (seriously, you two and your Cardassian personas cheer me up evertime).

As a Speaker of the Council (and so, I imagine, in a position to tread carefully around Thor Damar of Central Command and Nerys Ghemor of the Order, who hold the real power), I'm glad I could clarify!

 

[Thor Damar]

^ Don't worry, the sovereignty of the Council WILL be respected by Central Command. As for the Order...

 

[Deranged Nasat]

^ Don't worry, the sovereignty of the Council WILL be respected by Central Command. As for the Order...

*blank voice*: I have no doubt both Central Command and the Order serve equally within the laws of this Council.

 

[Thor Damar]

^ As should we all, just as long as we are in agreement with where our Priorities...lie.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

As per usual Speaker Narsat of the Council is correct. As we have so often seen in the long and glorious history of our proud and noble union, there have been corrupt and weak fools who seek to rule the state rather than serve it. Those who take the message of 'Cardassia Forever' and turn it into license to use the Cardassian populace to their own selfish ends. Not to mention the outsiders who would see us bought down low and use the worse of us to that evil end.

It is the first duty of all Cardassians (and humans for that matter) to not trust those who demand blind obedience but to work for the advancement of the State and the people who are the true masters.
Let the Central Command, Detapa Council and the vanguard of the Obsidian Order lead the way.

Long Live Cardassia!

Gul Thor Damar.

This is...an interesting point of view for a gul of the Cardassian Guard to be taking. We must always remember, though, that we are privy to information that the people do not--and must not--possess, and therefore it is incumbent upon us to make decisions in their stead. The survival of Cardassia, of course, is paramount, which is why we must think carefully before we make our decisions--but do not allow sentiment to sap your will to undertake such necessities.

^ Don't worry, the sovereignty of the Council WILL be respected by Central Command. As for the Order...

We serve as Cardassia requires.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Rick Rolling was banned by the Khitomer Accords, IIRC.

NEVAH!

 

[Thor Damar]

Rick Rolling was banned by the Khitomer Accords, IIRC.

NEVAH!

That's it, this means War! Prepare the Guard for battle.And the Order shall be with you shortly...

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

As per usual Speaker Narsat of the Council is correct. As we have so often seen in the long and glorious history of our proud and noble union, there have been corrupt and weak fools who seek to rule the state rather than serve it. Those who take the message of 'Cardassia Forever' and turn it into license to use the Cardassian populace to their own selfish ends. Not to mention the outsiders who would see us bought down low and use the worse of us to that evil end.

It is the first duty of all Cardassians (and humans for that matter) to not trust those who demand blind obedience but to work for the advancement of the State and the people who are the true masters.
Let the Central Command, Detapa Council and the vanguard of the Obsidian Order lead the way.

Long Live Cardassia!

Gul Thor Damar.

This is...an interesting point of view for a gul of the Cardassian Guard to be taking. We must always remember, though, that we are privy to information that the people do not--and must not--possess, and therefore it is incumbent upon us to make decisions in their stead. The survival of Cardassia, of course, is paramount, which is why we must think carefully before we make our decisions--but do not allow sentiment to sap your will to undertake such necessities.

^ Don't worry, the sovereignty of the Council WILL be respected by Central Command. As for the Order...

We serve as Cardassia requires.

As do we. Even a humble Glinn such as myself will go wherever Cardassia sends me. Although, if I might be allowed a comment: I do not view sentiments and feelings as weaknesses to be overcome. They make us stronger Cardassians, not emotionless drones! When properly applied, of course...

Rick Rolling was banned by the Khitomer Accords, IIRC.

NEVAH!

That's it, this means War! Prepare the Guard for battle.

Against such a savage enemy...I would hope that my ship will be at the front lines. I would gladly give my life if it ensured the destruction of such a foul opponent!

 

[Thor Damar]

You do credit to your family and to Cardassia, Gul. You shall be at the Union's vanguard against this most terrible of foes. May victory smile upon us this day.

 

[Deranged Nasat]

You do credit to your family and to Cardassia, Gul. You shall be at the Union's vanguard against this most terrible of foes. May victory smile upon us this day.

I'll do my part. I hereby divert as many funds to the Central Command as they require to take this war to our enemies.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

You do credit to your family and to Cardassia, Gul. You shall be at the Union's vanguard against this most terrible of foes. May victory smile upon us this day.

*bows* I am...honored, sir. I promise that I will not let you down. I live to serve the Guard and Cardassia.

 

[Thor Damar]

Excellent! We will build our war machine to such unimaginable heights and strike at the foul heart of our enemy. There will be no quarter