U.S.S. Enterprise - how many decks?

[TIN_MAN]

Then again in "The Day of the Dove" Kirk and Spock meet Mara on what is most likely deck six and when they are looking up at the pinwheel entity we can see signage behind them that says "Officer's Quarters" and then something like 6F-24 66-88 followed by 6F-53 77-99. Not sure if this helps in the decoding, or only complicates matters?

 

[Viper78]

True but the one on the E just seemed to go forever and the Viceroy just keeps falling with no satisfying noise at the end.

The Enterprise-E grows 2 decks from 24 to 26 in First Contact then it has 29 decks with that bottomless pit in Nemesis. Not bad for a ship that is roughly the same height as the Enterprise-A.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

The Enterprise-E grows 2 decks from 24 to 26 in First Contact then it has 29 decks with that bottomless pit in Nemesis. Not bad for a ship that is roughly the same height as the Enterprise-A.

You are not the only one to notice that.

 

[Boris Skrbic]

But what’s the retcon? Every once in a while there is a need for temporary half-decks and the crew can’t be bothered to call them Deck 24A vs 24B and the like — it has to be “24” and “25”. None of that would be visible in the MSD because it doesn’t depict all the detail or every area of the ship, and of course such “scaffolding” could easily be gone by the next film.

 

[F. King Daniel]

The Enterprise-E grows 2 decks from 24 to 26 in First Contact then it has 29 decks with that bottomless pit in Nemesis. Not bad for a ship that is roughly the same height as the Enterprise-A.

Well the Enterprise-A has 78 decks, sooooo...

 

[Boris Skrbic]

Well the Enterprise-A has 78 decks, sooooo...

It had an unfinished turboshaft.

 

[DEWLine]

Turboshaft walls taken from old starbases that hadn't been re-labelled.

 

[Henoch]

Turboshaft walls taken from old starbases that hadn't been re-labelled.

SCOTT: U.S.S. Enterprise, shakedown cruise report. I think this new ship was put together by monkeys. Och, she's got a fine engine, but half the doors won't open, and guess whose job it is to make it right?​

Re-labelling the inside of turboshaft number three which is closed for repairs is not high on Scotty's maintenance priorities.

 

[Timo]

Then again in "The Day of the Dove" Kirk and Spock meet Mara on what is most likely deck six and when they are looking up at the pinwheel entity we can see signage behind them that says "Officer's Quarters" and then something like 6F-24 66-88 followed by 6F-53 77-99. Not sure if this helps in the decoding, or only complicates matters?

I guess it's at best in the category of "manageable". That is, we might continue to go with "6=sixth deck down from top" and "F=sector of these generally circular decks" and then "24 or 53 is the specific cabin". Or then we might replace the latter with "24 or 53 specifies distance from centerpoint and is in fact a coordinate rather than a door identity". On a small deck like 3, the F sector really wouldn't have all that much distance from centerpoint to choose from, and there would be few cabins per each such coordinate (but still plausibly two that have "3F125" on the door, as canonically specified); on a larger deck like 6, cabins 66 through 88 might share a coordinate, as might 77-99.

The Enterprise-E grows 2 decks from 24 to 26 in First Contact then it has 29 decks with that bottomless pit in Nemesis. Not bad for a ship that is roughly the same height as the Enterprise-A.

Well, in dialogue practice, the ship is at one time claimed to have 24 decks, while at other times no claim is made and we merely learn that Decks 26 and 29 exist.

The ship model was reworked basically between every movie. Might be that during ST:FC, there were inaccessible spaces that later became Decks 25 through 34. Might be that new decks were actually installed at some point. Or might be that Picard just misspoke and said 24 when he should have said 34. But I guess the point I wanted to make is that we only really need to account for one "change" or "mishap" here, not two or three.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Can a nacelle fly on its own because that jigsaw puzzle I have is really bugging me now.

Thank the maker for my OCD I had to find a picture.

https://www.bonanza.com/items/like/8937948/classic-STAR-TREK-jigsaw-puzzle-lot-of-5

 

[Henoch]

Now, I can't un-see it, either...It might be a high warp speed, M/AM missile.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Now, I can't un-see it, either...It might be a high warp speed, M/AM missile.

An interesting thought. Odd it's flying so close to the E

 

[Henoch]

An interesting thought. Odd it's flying so close to the E

I just noticed Spock is flying with a jet pack. We never saw that in the show. Are they confusing Star Trek with Lost In Space?

 

[drt]

An interesting thought. Odd it's flying so close to the E

Isn't it also labeled NCC-1701? Perhaps Enterprise fired it.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Isn't it also labeled NCC-1701? Perhaps Enterprise fired it.

Hmmm good point but my point was how much it looks like a flying nacelle, with no ship attached.

 

[Henoch]

Isn't it also labeled NCC-1701? Perhaps Enterprise fired it.

Due to its perspective, it could be smaller than seen, perhaps the size of a shuttle nacelle. Either launched from the hangar or from one of the bottom hull hatches. Might be a long range probe. Note the blue nacelle cap; suggests a different process in there like a sensor dome or blue because it "burns" hotter under the cap?

 

[drt]

Due to its perspective, it could be smaller than seen, perhaps the size of a shuttle nacelle. Either launched from the hangar or from one of the bottom hull hatches. Might be a long range probe. Note the blue nacelle cap; suggests a different process in there like a sensor dome or blue because it "burns" hotter under the cap?

I was thinking "probe" myself.

 

[Racefuel]

Then again in "The Day of the Dove" Kirk and Spock meet Mara on what is most likely deck six and when they are looking up at the pinwheel entity we can see signage behind them that says "Officer's Quarters" and then something like 6F-24 66-88 followed by 6F-53 77-99. Not sure if this helps in the decoding, or only complicates matters?

Probably trying to replicate signage in modern naval vessels.

6F= Deck Six, Forward
66-88= Frame and Junction?

 

[Henoch]

Probably trying to replicate signage in modern naval vessels.

6F= Deck Six, Forward
66-88= Frame and Junction?

Doctor McCoy's quarters was labeled 3F 127...Deck Three, Forward, either frame 127 (no Junction) or simply room 127. Logic cannot be applied where no logic exists...

 

[Timo]

Oh, I'd say logic is the most easily applied where there are no inconvenient facts in the way...

F for Forward is not my personal favorite when our other known letter is C, and when the ship is basically circular rather than linear in layout. But it's not an impossible interpretation, either; convenient for logic that the other 23 letters are absent!

Timo Saloniemi