TWO Sequels to iD4?!
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I read this rumor ever year...
Love or hate Independence Day (most people here seem to hate it, I enjoyed it), it's more or less the definition of a complete story. It's a closed bubble universe that left very little unresolved and very little to continue a story with. Any sequel would more or less seem like a rehash and I think there is very little that would change that.
You should check out the Independence Day UK radio play.
The UK doesn't quite save the day, but the BBC's Sky At Night presenter Patrick Moore goes hand-to-hand with one of the aliens, then figures out a way of evading the alien fightercraft before hopping into a RAF fighter and taking them on in the air.
i did listen to it live. i don't remember Moore flying an RAF fighter, but i do remember being pissed off that they had the RAF boarding a carrier to escape to the Mid East, when 1. Tornados can't land on carriers, 2. surely the RAF would disperse to Ireland, Iceland or Norway and 3. the RAF contingent in the Mid East in the movie were clearly from the UN no-fly zone over Iraq.
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ID's 1, 2, and 3 were sabotaged and destroyed... ID5 is our last best hope for sales.
Is it that they can't or is it that they don't? For instance, the F-16 could theoretically land on a carrier. You just wouldn't want to if you had any other choice.
our mini-carriers are too small for them, plus Tornados don't have arrester gear or the capacity for a short-take off that our ski-jump deck carriers use.
hence why we had Harriers on our flat-tops, short take off/landing capability. and why we're buying the F35.
hence why we had Harriers on our flat-tops, short take off/landing capability. and why we're buying the F35.
That'll do it alright. or rather, not do it.
Ah, I didn't realize he took off in the story. I thought he just landed.
You should check out the Independence Day UK radio play.
The UK doesn't quite save the day, but the BBC's Sky At Night presenter Patrick Moore goes hand-to-hand with one of the aliens, then figures out a way of evading the alien fightercraft before hopping into a RAF fighter and taking them on in the air.
i did listen to it live. i don't remember Moore flying an RAF fighter, but i do remember being pissed off that they had the RAF boarding a carrier to escape to the Mid East, when 1. Tornados can't land on carriers, 2. surely the RAF would disperse to Ireland, Iceland or Norway and 3. the RAF contingent in the Mid East in the movie were clearly from the UN no-fly zone over Iraq.
He didn't actually fly the fighter - he took the navigator's position (in real life, he served as a navigator on RAF bombers during WW2) and he figured out a way of fooling the alien fighters' targeting systems so our heroes and heroines could evade them.
Wasn't the plane that landed on the carrier some sort of advanced prototype? Not into aviation stuff, so I dunno if it was a real-world plane or something made up for the show.
There was a sequel novel, wasn't there?
Along with a prequel novel starring Brackish Okun.
The prequel novel is a lot of fun as is the novelization (which expands on some characters and ideas), but I've bothered with the sequel novel. Every time I read the synopsis I thought it sounded like rubbish.
Edit: Harvey, I thought the same thing about Silent Zone and I, too, fear to go back to it for the same reason.
Edit: Harvey, I thought the same thing about Silent Zone and I, too, fear to go back to it for the same reason.
Since the aliens are all dead, there would be difficulty doing a *direct* sequel - the President said that their entire civilization was on board the mothership, and I doubt that there were many survivors from the crashed city destroyers - but I suppose they could always use other races, possibly thinking that Earth is so weak they're ripe for the taking.
Or perhaps Earth reverse engineers the alien technology and goes on the offensive? Sort of a "never again will WE be attacked" type of thing. I think I like that one better.
Or perhaps Earth reverse engineers the alien technology and goes on the offensive? Sort of a "never again will WE be attacked" type of thing. I think I like that one better.
well, presumably they'd need to take off to get back off the carrier, but no they only land at the end.
You should check out the Independence Day UK radio play.
The UK doesn't quite save the day, but the BBC's Sky At Night presenter Patrick Moore goes hand-to-hand with one of the aliens, then figures out a way of evading the alien fightercraft before hopping into a RAF fighter and taking them on in the air.
i did listen to it live. i don't remember Moore flying an RAF fighter, but i do remember being pissed off that they had the RAF boarding a carrier to escape to the Mid East, when 1. Tornados can't land on carriers, 2. surely the RAF would disperse to Ireland, Iceland or Norway and 3. the RAF contingent in the Mid East in the movie were clearly from the UN no-fly zone over Iraq.
He didn't actually fly the fighter - he took the navigator's position (in real life, he served as a navigator on RAF bombers during WW2) and he figured out a way of fooling the alien fighters' targeting systems so our heroes and heroines could evade them.
Wasn't the plane that landed on the carrier some sort of advanced prototype? Not into aviation stuff, so I dunno if it was a real-world plane or something made up for the show.
they were supposed to be landing Tornados and a Eurofighter Typhoon on the carrier. neither of which can land on carriers.
He just said their whole civilization was moving from planet to planet and consuming all their resources, not that they were all aboard the Mothership and City Destroyers.
"I saw... its thoughts. I saw what they're planning to do. They're like locusts. They're moving from planet to planet... their whole civilization. After they've consumed every natural resource they move on... and we're next."
You could easily base a sequel or a pair of them on the Mothership being the mass destruction and beachhead-establishing portion of the invasion, with there being numerous full-scale colonization vessels to follow 15-20 years later that aren't quite as militarily-oriented, and therefore can be somewhat more realistically taken on by humans with a lot more reverse-engineered alien tech. Get some good space, sea, and land battles in there too in addition to the air battles.
That being said, while I enjoyed ID4 as silly fun, Roland Emmerich has gotten progressively worse over the years (though teaming up with Devlin again might up his game a bit), and most sequels have diminishing returns in terms of quality anyway. Plus, as mentioned, I'll believe it when I see it as far as these movies actually getting made.
I owned the tape of this and it was the Typhoon that landed on the Carrier. The Tornados (One I believe flown by Colin Baker's character) Were redeployed to RAf Leuchars which is a real life base in Scotland. On the way they provided escort to the helicopter that spirited the Queen and Prince Philip away from London to Balmoral.
Oh and Patrick Moore fights a space alien, there is even a jokey bit of dialogue between a couple of downed RAf aircrew to that effect.
Also Devlin and Emerich expressly forbad the makers of Independence Day Uk from having us Brits save the world :-(.
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Though Patrick is actually played by Jon Culshaw during the fight scene as that was a late addition after he'd gone home, in the SFX feature at the time they joked about him needing a stunt man for an audio action scene.
Now I never knew that. I haven't listened to it in years and I'm pretty certain that I threw the tape out. Ah well easy come easy go.
The prequel novel is a lot of fun as is the novelization (which expands on some characters and ideas), but I've bothered with the sequel novel. Every time I read the synopsis I thought it sounded like rubbish.
Edit: Harvey, I thought the same thing about Silent Zone and I, too, fear to go back to it for the same reason.
The sequel novel is pretty rubbish. There are a few interesting points, where the heroes are exploring the remnants of a Destroyer-type ship. One curious thing is that the main point in the novel is about the US and the Middle East and overcoming their cultural differences, but I found that aspect to be somewhat heavy-handed.
I say bring on a sequel movie. ID4-Ever!
There is potential for a sequel story to ID4, dealing with the aftermath of an alien invasion. How would the world cope in the face of such devastation? Would we salvage their tech? How would society adapt to the fact that the worlds sense of security has been utterly stripped away?
Unfortunately the only sequel i could envision would be a fairly serious and hard science fiction piece dealing with complex cultural and psychological issues. Which doesnt really lend itself to a popcorn movie sequel.
If it does happen no doubt it'll just go the tired route of either invasion by another race or invasion by a group of the same race that we didnt know about. Although feth knows what monuments they'd have left to destroy this time around, about all thats left is the Holy Stone of Clonricket.
Unfortunately the only sequel i could envision would be a fairly serious and hard science fiction piece dealing with complex cultural and psychological issues. Which doesnt really lend itself to a popcorn movie sequel.
If it does happen no doubt it'll just go the tired route of either invasion by another race or invasion by a group of the same race that we didnt know about. Although feth knows what monuments they'd have left to destroy this time around, about all thats left is the Holy Stone of Clonricket.
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