Here's an attempt at a low-profile version of the drop-launched Spirit of Opportunity:
Two more LCARS schematics
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That much is now obvious.
The device marked "FG" on "S-Deck" in the blueprint here. Detailed explanation in the paragraph for S-Deck here.
You remember incorrectly.
We don't know that for sure. Probert's original design certainly DID have a warp core. From dialog, we at least know the Type-7 shuttle had a "dilithium chamber," which at the very least suggests a dilithium chamber is a useful part of the impulse engines and probably an intermix as well.
Well, I did mention possible use as a whole-crew escape pod and loading the ship's vault into the thing.
Here's another crack at the Phoenix:
Interestingly, the new warp core bears a curious resemblance to the NX-01 warp core.
It was just after Jake's engine stalls and the alarm goes off in his cockpit (was he trying to go to warp? I don't know what the hell he was up to...) we see Geordi at the Conn saying "He's unbalanced the dilithium reaction." Afterwards Riker adds "All he's got left is maneuvering jets." For some reason unbalancing his dilithium chamber stalls the impulse engines as well as any FTL capability the shuttle (probably) has.
I've always felt this is what the intermix chamber was originally for. It's sort of a "common drive shaft" that the fusion reactors and antimatter reactors can both use to power either the impulse engines or the warp drives.
I've just realized that even the TNG Enterprise has a candidate for this feature: the nondescript, seldom-used white column running parallel to the warp core with segmented joints (the thing the bandits were siphoning trilithium from in "Starship Mine"). That could well be an "intermix chamber" a la TMP, especially since the top of it could very well be connected to the main impulse engine.
Saquist
Commodore
Aswell as your contempt.
If that was obvious as you say then your usefullness in providing a prognosis for the situation was nonexistent.
The device marked "FG" on "S-Deck" in the blueprint here. Detailed explanation in the paragraph for S-Deck here[/QUOTE]
It's 1701-A not the refit.
I wouldn't be surprised.
I also wouldn't be surprised if you were wrong either.
You make many declarations in your explanations of your speculations
Actually you're right along this line.
While it certainly seems the shuttles are impulse only...some of the later season shows...specificly the one where Worf enters many different realities, Riker says that the shuttles "warp" engines may have caused the tear in realities.
Thanks for the "Coming of Age" pointers!
However, this might be a feature present only in compact shuttlecraft, which cannot afford (volume-wise or mass-wise) the otherwise more economical and sensible system of separate powerplants for impulse and warp drives.
Does it? They do have prominent engine nacelles just like their warp-capable motherships, they do seem to be able to move from star to star without much comment in at least one episode of each show, and I'm aware of only a single Star Trek plot where it might have been relevant that the shuttle wasn't warp-capable.
That plot'd be "Q Who?" where Q hijacks Picard in a Type 7 shuttle, and our other heroes initially conduct a search within a volume with the radius a vehicle "without warp drive" might cover. However, this doesn't necessarily label Type 7 as impulse-only; our heroes would have to start their search from somewhere, and they have absolutely no clue on the direction or destination of the shuttle, so they have to search full volumes of space. At first, they would have searched the volume a vehicle without impulse drive could have covered; then the volume a vehicle without warp drive could have covered; then the volume a vehicle with speed below warp 2 could have covered; and still their target could be a shuttle capable of warp 2.2.
Nowhere else does the plot demand that a shuttle be warp-incapable. Then again, the plot of DS9 "The Sound of Her Voice" demands that a shuttle not have a warp core aboard. Might mean that shuttles go to warp by some other means, or that shuttles have easily removable warp cores, or that shuttles can perform planetary landings with the warp core shut down cold - while the mothership does not, doesn't have, and/or cannot.
Timo Saloniemi
However, this might be a feature present only in compact shuttlecraft, which cannot afford (volume-wise or mass-wise) the otherwise more economical and sensible system of separate powerplants for impulse and warp drives.
Does it? They do have prominent engine nacelles just like their warp-capable motherships, they do seem to be able to move from star to star without much comment in at least one episode of each show, and I'm aware of only a single Star Trek plot where it might have been relevant that the shuttle wasn't warp-capable.
That plot'd be "Q Who?" where Q hijacks Picard in a Type 7 shuttle, and our other heroes initially conduct a search within a volume with the radius a vehicle "without warp drive" might cover. However, this doesn't necessarily label Type 7 as impulse-only; our heroes would have to start their search from somewhere, and they have absolutely no clue on the direction or destination of the shuttle, so they have to search full volumes of space. At first, they would have searched the volume a vehicle without impulse drive could have covered; then the volume a vehicle without warp drive could have covered; then the volume a vehicle with speed below warp 2 could have covered; and still their target could be a shuttle capable of warp 2.2.
Nowhere else does the plot demand that a shuttle be warp-incapable. Then again, the plot of DS9 "The Sound of Her Voice" demands that a shuttle not have a warp core aboard. Might mean that shuttles go to warp by some other means, or that shuttles have easily removable warp cores, or that shuttles can perform planetary landings with the warp core shut down cold - while the mothership does not, doesn't have, and/or cannot.
Timo Saloniemi
Saquist
Commodore
While there is some specific episodes with warp and one specific for impulse only, the TNG shuttles were NEVER seen at warp. This exaggerates the perception of impulse only.
The reason for this is likely because of the extra FX it would require such as scanning the model for the warp entry scene and a warp tunnel scene.
The reason for this is likely because of the extra FX it would require such as scanning the model for the warp entry scene and a warp tunnel scene.
What kind of vessel were picard and company in during the episode with the destabilized romulan singularity? The one with the time dilation effects caused by entities attempting to nest in the singularity?
It seemed bigger then a standard shuttle, runabout perhaps? Although I had thought those were a DS9 thing, and don't recall the TNG episode clearly enough.
Standard runabout. Just like in DS9.
Saquist
Commodore
Yeah it was a standard runnabout.
DS9 and TNG actually over lapped at this point and so it was though instead of creating the Captain's Yacht just for that episode.
I'm not sure if we ever see a runnabout jump to warp. I wouldn't doubt that it's happen but Voyager is the first time I recall seeing shuttles at warp and jumpting to warp. If it's true then it's because the the larger use of CGI made it easier and practical.
Here's another crack at the Phoenix:
Interestingly, the new warp core bears a curious resemblance to the NX-01 warp core.
Do you believe that this had a antimatter reactor or just fusion?
My read would be just fusion. And no dilithium right?
If you're trying to bust Einsteins chops, you need tremendous power quickly. A fusion reactor might produce power, but not fast enough. Antimatter is power stored in the most compact way we know of, on tap as quickly as you need it. And a fusion bomb isn't practical for anything like this.
And, as I mentioned before, a method was discovered last year for producing one type of anitmatter with relative ease. We just haven't developed storage bottles for it yet. And there's probably no hurry to do so, since their main use would be for space travel, not much of a market at this point.
And, as I mentioned before, a method was discovered last year for producing one type of anitmatter with relative ease. We just haven't developed storage bottles for it yet. And there's probably no hurry to do so, since their main use would be for space travel, not much of a market at this point.
Saquist
Commodore
I always suspected fusion was not a single viable method of FTL. Maybe multiple plants.
Saquist
Commodore
Indeed...but why would an M/AR need a multiple outlet as though it needs to breathe? Manifold has only been used in reference to the impulse engines.
In the briar patch it didn't make much sense that the impulse engines need to breathe too...and apparently they do....why would the gases in the Briar Patch do anything to the impulse engines.
In the briar patch it didn't make much sense that the impulse engines need to breathe too...and apparently they do....why would the gases in the Briar Patch do anything to the impulse engines.
No criticisms here... keep up the good work. I couldn't do better, and I'll guarantee neither can the rest of 'em. Some people have a nack for pointing out faults. That energy needs to be redirected in a more constructive fashion. To nit-pick is just illogical.
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