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If by "as much or more" you mean that the writers should be paid as much or more than the effects company, bless you for the thought.
Here's my speculation:
The scene follows the transport during warp. They are indeed beamed into the boiler room so as not to attract attention. Scotty is accidentally beamed into the water tank, a nod to TVH. Scotty then tries to swim to an opening. The scene is just for lolz.
that's what I think, but I also think that the script should have others go through it with a fine toothed comb, even finer than those guys that look for effects flaws
If by "as much or more" you mean that the writers should be paid as much or more than the effects company, bless you for the thought.
When Scotty emerges he'll start into a song and dance
Oh Kirk boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling........
People do - lots of people do - but they're generally not looking for the kinds of things you're thinking about. Everyone doesn't agree about what the content of a film should be.
you're right. I think thats a flaw with these creative meetings. if they are going to spend 150 million to bring to life a two hour story, shouldn't every last story decision be important? I mean if Lucas had someone with a red pen crossing out all the shit that didn't make sense in the prequels, maybe they would be well regarded.
Who said they aren't? I said they're not looking for the same things you'd like - that doesn't mean that they don't care about "every last story decision." They just come to different conclusions than you have.
that's why this is an opinion board and we all have opinions and when I see a movie that has too many flaws or groaners or lapses in story logic, than I going to say that I think another rewrite was necessary before filming. I mean why didn't the writers - or anyone else - notice that having the Enterprise wait for 17 hours or some such long time didn't jibe with the fact that Shinzon NEEDED Picard's blood in Nemesis?
That's nice, but it doesn't justify the assumption that these things aren't carefully considered by people who happen to have different opinions than yours but are in positions to actually make decisions.
And all productions are not equal, of course. I certainly wouldn't try to figure out why anything was done on crap like Nemesis.
i never said that they werent
Here are some screenshots I took.
I know that the producers wanted to go for a more industrial/mechanical look for engineering (which I'm all for going in that direction), but in my lonely little opinion this is just going a little too far & extreme.
I mean really - Wiring conduit, and florescent lighting on a 23rd century spaceship?
Doesn't Star Trek take place the future?!
Maybe/hopefully it'll look better in the larger context of the movie.
I dunno, there's fluorescent lighting all over Star Trek ships, usually imbedded in support pillars or control surfaces. It's quite evident in Battlestar Galactica, and I think Babylon 5 probably jumped GE's stock price three points when it went to series.
Wait a minute...i have seen that expression before..........
When Kirk says "No! No! Nooo!' it's like the writers plagiarized themselves, as they had the soldier guy saying the same thing during the final battle of Transformers when Bumbleebee and Ironhide decide to use a Furby truck to defend everyone from Starscrem
Here are some screenshots I took.
I know that the producers wanted to go for a more industrial/mechanical look for engineering (which I'm all for going in that direction), but in my lonely little opinion this is just going a little too far & extreme.
I mean really - Wiring conduit, and florescent lighting on a 23rd century spaceship?
Doesn't Star Trek take place the future?!
Maybe/hopefully it'll look better in the larger context of the movie.
I'd agree. I'd probably not have gone that way, either. The problem is someone will ask if we've ever been to the future, and so how do we know how it will look?
That said, I don't think this is engineering. This scene is probably right after Kirk and Scotty beam aboard. Given Kirk was kicked off the ship by Spock, they're likely sneaking back on board. So, they'd want to beam to a part of the ship that has the least chance of being occupied. This may be a water treatment area, or something like that. The very bowels of the ship.
If they didn't care about being seen, it seems they'd have done something less dangerous like beam directly to the transporter room.
If Scotty is beamed into the boiler, wouldn't he die from the heat? I sure hope that's a cold water pipe. Of course, then he'd probably freeze. That must be the pool-temperature pipe. Maybe it'll dump him into the pool. Where lots of female crewmembers are waiting for him in non-regulation clothing.
Yes absolutely. He's gonna end up in the rec room pool.
The problem is someone will ask if we've ever been to the future, and so how do we know how it will look?
True. I'm just somewhat referencing current technology, what's in development, and extrapolating out where it's headed and future applications.
And.... If Scotty beamed into a water pipe, however comfortable the water may be, wouldn't he drown? I mean, I hope he took a deep breath before energizing. Not to mention the thought of panic at having materialized under water. Within a pipe. That at least happend to be a perfect fit. Considering he was probably standing when energized, all in all, I'd say his luck was good that part of him didn't materialize outside of the pipe.
I'm beginning to think the beam into the Enterprise went well. Now, Kirk and Scotty have to get somewhere on the ship in a hurry without being spotted. Scotty, probably from knowing the ship from studying it afar, and of course being the comic relief, says they'll get where they want to go fastest if they just take a deep breath and jump into this water pipe. Before Kirk can say anything about how stupid that is, Scotty's on his way. The discussion over this also gives Kirk time to take his jacket off during the scene. Hey, why can't this be?
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