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Tron: Ares
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That was one of my main issues with the series. There are only so many times you can use the same trick before it stops becoming effective. It feels like writing 101 and should be used as a textbook example of what happens when viewers can't fully invest into the characters. Death becomes a cheap trick and robs the narrative of any power for future deaths. It's like a version of the Boy who cried wolf. "He's dead. See? Nah, just kidding, he's alive! We were kidding again, and he's dead. Except that he's alive, isn't that great? Hey guys, guess what, he's dead.. Guys?! Guys?! Why aren't you reacting to the death? We really mean it this time."
The stupid thing is that the entire show seemed to be built around this premise, and the more they used it, the more they wrote themselves into a corner of getting less effective with each use.
The critics got it wrong. This was very entertaining. Excellent score, amazing visuals, cool action. Jared Leto is fine. Best Tron movie of the lot. I should have watched it in IMAX. But saw it in Dolby Atmos so that was great for the music.
Unfortunately the theater I watched it in was almost empty. I went to see it tonight because from tomorrow there are no more night time showings at theaters around me. Looks like its already on it's way out in a big way. See you again for the sequel in 15 years...
Unfortunately the theater I watched it in was almost empty. I went to see it tonight because from tomorrow there are no more night time showings at theaters around me. Looks like its already on it's way out in a big way. See you again for the sequel in 15 years...
Seems to be quite an expensive movie for one to be flying so much under the radar. There feels like very little hype on it. I'm a member of multiple forums, yet this is is the only one where it's been talked about. So, it's kind of telling. Makes me wonder if the movie would have had more success if someone other than Jared Leto was in the lead role.
As been stated many times - there is no movie without Jared Leto. He originally was being considered for a character that was dropped from Legacy. Than going to be in direct sequel to Legacy before Disney cancelled it and buried the franchise. Leto’s persistence over the years convinced the studio to revamp that script with his character as the lead. He ultimately was a producer and this can not be dismissed….
He put his own money towards getting this made. So discussions of this being made without him are rather pointless.
Heck, all this box office might be pointless too. What if he is willing to up his contribution to the budget to get Disney to do another one? If not a feature maybe something else?
Love to know what type of money he actually put down on this. But I doubt it will be public.
He put his own money towards getting this made. So discussions of this being made without him are rather pointless.
Heck, all this box office might be pointless too. What if he is willing to up his contribution to the budget to get Disney to do another one? If not a feature maybe something else?
Love to know what type of money he actually put down on this. But I doubt it will be public.
Historically, movies that were perceived to be vanity projects have done poorly at the box office (Even if the people in question are actually well-liked).
Correlation is not causation, but we can still add another one to the list I guess.
Did you bother to read the post you quoted?
Yep. They should do what Sony is doing with the Ghostbusters franchise (and the Ghost Corps production company) - expand the franchise, especially in the interim between films. I kind of wish they hadn't ignored/done away with the Tron 2.0 game.
The Ghostbuster movies have been pretty awful.
Eh, that may be, but it doesn't mean he was the right choice as lead if him being in it is driving potential viewers away. Which is why I wonder if things would be different with another lead star. Look at it this way, I have no doubt he has great ideas to contribute to the franchise, and it's great that he was so persistent in order to get this movie made, but I can't help but wonder if there would be more attention to the movie with a more bankable star. Call it curiosity.
Oh man, the Tron 2.0 game was so good. I wish we had followups to it. That is a game that really knew its material.
There have been similar issues with comics over the years, as sometimes character deaths are written very well and dramatically (and possibly, at least for a while, a consistent period of time
) but the flip side of that is that it's hard to keep a popular character gone for good. Sooner or later they're often brought back because writers and fans want more of that character.For my part, being largely unfamiliar with Leto's other work, I found his acting kind of flat, the way Keanu Reeves has been in some of his films. Not the most terrible performance I've seen, but it could have been better.
This is cringe
Jared Leto greeting a half-empty theater
Jared Leto greeting a half-empty theater
Yes. I too hate it when actors promote movies they are in.
More need to be like Kierra Knightley and just sleep through it. Very much less cringe and no one would ever mock them at all...
There have been similar issues with comics over the years, as sometimes character deaths are written very well and dramatically (and possibly, at least for a while, a consistent period of time
For my part, being largely unfamiliar with Leto's other work, I found his acting kind of flat, the way Keanu Reeves has been in some of his films. Not the most terrible performance I've seen, but it could have been better.
Well, having it happen in comics is one thing, and it's even written into the lore, as writers need to keep reinventing, so it's somewhat to be expected that deaths in comics is never 100% certain. It's a similar conundrum to the whole issue of Arthur Conan Doyle killing off Sherlock Holmes, then having to bring him back due to popularity. He proved too popular to kill off.
But in a TV show, I think the trick is far less effective. If a character is killed off, then I think they should stay final. It's unfair to the viewer otherwise. You want to make any deaths worth the emotional payoff. What happened in Westworld whenever a host was brought back removed any suspense over any possibility that the character would get endangered.
Good point on Jared Leto and Keanu Reeves. I honestly personally can't stand Keanu Reeves beyond his Bill & Ted movies.
To be fair, I think theatres are hurting everywhere, and this is not Tron specific. I went to see Roofman yesterday, and my theatre was almost dead empty on a Thursday. They didn't even have enough staff to open the food vendors to sell food.