Tron: Ares
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Yeah. Critics are snobs in most cases. They only like boring Oscar like movies.
"I float for the users!"
Tron was at the big ENCOM presentation on the Space Paranoids game. Seriously he is standing at front of the stage at front of the huge crowd…
Seriously there is fan in vintage style costume. That is most direct reference to the character in Ares.
Something that is very undefinable and possibly off putting about whole series to audiences- are the programs alive? Even if they are artificial life what are lives like? Do they eat, sleep….. sex???
The original movie had deleted love scene between Tron and Yori. It was fully completed and is bonus feature on home video releases. Seems to be a couple different reasons why it was deleted so late. If early there would be no completed effects. Either cut for pacing issues or too erotic for Disney in 1982. Bruce Boxleitner himself said it was confusing. How can they be sexual if just programs?
Legacy and Uprising pushed further them having more human lifestyles. But do they really die?
Seriously there is fan in vintage style costume. That is most direct reference to the character in Ares.
Something that is very undefinable and possibly off putting about whole series to audiences- are the programs alive? Even if they are artificial life what are lives like? Do they eat, sleep….. sex???
The original movie had deleted love scene between Tron and Yori. It was fully completed and is bonus feature on home video releases. Seems to be a couple different reasons why it was deleted so late. If early there would be no completed effects. Either cut for pacing issues or too erotic for Disney in 1982. Bruce Boxleitner himself said it was confusing. How can they be sexual if just programs?
Legacy and Uprising pushed further them having more human lifestyles. But do they really die?
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They (Disney) don't want a repeat of the John Carter financial disaster. Their market testing and audience screening data probably showed there really wasn't a lot of buzz/excitement or a huge audience for this film; so they are cutting their losses.
I honestly wonder how this film got greenlit in the first place. Some suit at Disney must be a MAJOR Tron fan.
Just like John Carter.
Well, at least with a title like "Tron: Ares" you know what you're getting into.
In the case of John Carter they didn't even get the title right because of the industry perception that movies with "Mars" in the title were destined to fail.
It's strange isn't it. I noticed a similar phenomena during the marketing for Crystal Skull. Normally in a media blitz, the company would amp up commercials when they're slated to appear on talk shows, especially if they're part of the same company. This did happen for Crystal Skull, however, strangely enough while Harrison Ford was on, they didn't end up talking about the movie at all. They would talk about everything under the sun but the movie, which I found very strange and it struck me that maybe Disney didn't entirely believe in the movie. Dial of Destiny got way more talk in comparison when it came time for its media tour.
And back to Tron: Ares, still haven't seen a single commercial, and while I've been watching a talk show, they only sent one actor to talk promote it, and it wasn't Jared Leto, but someone lower on the totem pole. Nothing more, which is interesting because more prolific movies with more marketing will sometimes get multiple of their stars appearing on talk shows, sometimes all at once even.
I saw a bunch of ads for Ares on mobile platforms like the Lower Decks game. They rivaled the quantity of commercials for that idiotic Royal Match game.
Legacy media is dead and nobody cares about it anymore.
Legacy media is dead and nobody cares about it anymore.
Ah yes, the old Westworld problem: the more human-like the hosts became, the less interesting they became, and when the show could always introduce a new backup file of their entire minds, it was impossible to take their deaths seriously. Oh no, Dolores died for real, the last of her, we swear!
Next season: Guess what? We found another Dolores! But, she's got a different hair color this time; awesome, right?!
The obvious issue with marketing and box office - 15 years since last movie. Unless raised on the movies by their parents most teens have no idea what Tron is. Disney should have marketed this like it was a whole new idea. Which seems to be very reason they did decide to build story around new character. Uprising was right after Legacy and had a short run. If they wanted to keep the brand alive between movies they should have continued Legacy. Or done another show. Also push video games.
It was Jared Leto who was a major Tron fan and pushed for this. Originally, Ares was supposed to be a supporting character in an early draft for Tron 3 that would have followed where Legacy left off, but when that project couldn't come together, Leto stepped in as a producer and eventually managed to get Disney to sign off on a new version set mainly in the real world in which Ares would be the main character.
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It would be possible to do a good John Carter movie, but Disney is incapable of making it. It would probably need to be CGI or animated, be rated R to X, and encompass an era of thought that is FAR behind us. It would need to fully embrace Burroughs' original work, right down to the nekkid Red Men of Mars. Think Heavy Metal meets 19th Century Sci-Fi. Throw in a thumping soundtrack and it could be one of the best movies of the century. But it would have to be marketed properly and people would have to understand that it is based in 19th Century morals, not 21st.
Could be awesome. At this point I'm reasonably sure nobody will ever dream of doing it.
There's a recap sequence at the very beginning that covers the events of the first movie. It kind of glosses over Legacy, but also tells what happened after it that set up the situation in Ares.I'm going to see Tron: Ares on Sunday with a group of friends. A couple of them haven't seen the other two. How accessible is it for newcomers? Should we give them a mini-recap of the other films in the saga?
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What's awesome about a rated X sci-fi project?
Nevermind, my point was the film was a passion project for a Disney exec who assumed it was a much larger property and better known than it actually was, resulting in poor marketing.