Yori and Ram CONFIRMED!
Tron: Ares
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Yori and Ram CONFIRMED!
Cindy Morgan died a few years ago.
Sadly so did David Warner.
To clarify- a number of different articles are appearing from that same press tour. A different one says one of the cast pictures removed during that tour was Jeff Bridges. This was before Disney publicly announced his involvement.
SO yadda yadda spoilers spoilers...
We are seeing the Grid from original movie in Ares. One of the oddest things about Legacy was we never was the original Grid. I partially get why for the purposes of that story. But it added to the sense the sequel was very disconnected from original. So seeing it again is fantastic. Who will be there is the biggest question. Lots of controversy in bringing back dead actors through cgi, etc BUT... would there ever be a more fitting place to do that than in the world of Tron? Where they are avatars of real people. Maybe not major roles but tasteful cameos. But Bruce Boxleitner is very much alive.,,, so we will see.
Apparently some IMAX screens are having Double features of Legacy and Ares on opening day. Not seeing it listed by me. Would have loved to see both. Probably will see Ares in 3D. Normally not a 3D fan but seeing Legacy that way was perfect. The 3D did not start until Sam entered the Grid. Also the black backgrounds made the objects popping out look fantastic.
To clarify- a number of different articles are appearing from that same press tour. A different one says one of the cast pictures removed during that tour was Jeff Bridges. This was before Disney publicly announced his involvement.
SO yadda yadda spoilers spoilers...
We are seeing the Grid from original movie in Ares. One of the oddest things about Legacy was we never was the original Grid. I partially get why for the purposes of that story. But it added to the sense the sequel was very disconnected from original. So seeing it again is fantastic. Who will be there is the biggest question. Lots of controversy in bringing back dead actors through cgi, etc BUT... would there ever be a more fitting place to do that than in the world of Tron? Where they are avatars of real people. Maybe not major roles but tasteful cameos. But Bruce Boxleitner is very much alive.,,, so we will see.
Apparently some IMAX screens are having Double features of Legacy and Ares on opening day. Not seeing it listed by me. Would have loved to see both. Probably will see Ares in 3D. Normally not a 3D fan but seeing Legacy that way was perfect. The 3D did not start until Sam entered the Grid. Also the black backgrounds made the objects popping out look fantastic.
Actually, with the way they reused the arcade from the original movie, my understanding was that this was the original grid, only much upgraded since the time we had seen it from the original movie.
Your forgetting Flynn was at ENCOM when he was digitized and put on the grid in original movie. Not his Arcade. It was Encom’s system. Even though he took over the company at end of first movie, Legacy makes it specific that what he created at the arcade was his private secret project. Before he disappears for decades. Also that he brings over Alan Bradley’s program Tron
to his personal server.
When Legacy was released I read that during development or production Pixar’s group of storytellers were brought on to offer advise to strengthen the story. Specifically involved in the flashbacks with the character of Tron we did get. I always wondered what movie was like before their suggestions. Perhaps originally it was first Grid that evolved. That’s just my personal speculation from things I read or watched 15 years ago. It might come up in audio commentary. My feelings always was for all of Pixar’s help the backstory in the finished film still was a little muddled and hard to understand. As the new press tour reports indicate they are following up on first Grid being separate. We are seeing 3 grids in the new movie.
^Ahh, I see. I don't think they ever really expanded on it, so given that when it comes to the Arcade visuals, naturally one would expect it to be the same grid. There were too many things that were never explained, plus I always assumed the two were actually the same grid, but with different entry points.
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Ok, if a grid is a manifestation of a home network, and there are multiple, and if the internet is a thing in the TronVerse, one would naturally expect the grids to be interconnected the way the internet is. Although somewhat complicating things is the fact that Legacy never acknowledged the internet. For any of them to be isolated at this point would not make much sense.
Kevin's grid has been operating on its own all this time, why would it be connected now if it wasn't when he went in?
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Unrelated, but I just skimmed past some tweet or whatever about how Mr. Beast is in a promo for Tron Ares. (And hopefully just a promo and not the movie proper.
)Jared Leto. Mr. Beast. Is Disney trying to make me not watch this movie?
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Well, true. It would be one of those pre-internet computers. But the others? Why would they be isolated as well? It would make no sense for them to be unconnected. Especially as concerned to the plot they're presenting.
Not to go down a rabbit hole, but the Encom grid was, per the plot, connected to the New York Times and the CIA. And random insurance companies. (Rez in Peace: CROM.)
I recall an interview (commentary?) with the film makers of Tron: Legacy that they intentionally kept Flynn's "system" (does he call it a grid?) isolated so as to not have to address anything resembling the internet.
I recall an interview (commentary?) with the film makers of Tron: Legacy that they intentionally kept Flynn's "system" (does he call it a grid?) isolated so as to not have to address anything resembling the internet.
They do call it the grid multiple times.
Well, it is a digital frontier.
Now see, we're getting somewhere. I feel like that makes a bit more sense. So really, you have two grids via the movie's logic, two network systems that can be used as an entry point. I think it's confusing, because the terms are being used interchangeably. I've always imagined the grid being a visual representation of a whole network. So, whether you have one network or two connected, they would still be part of the grid, separate systems being like neighbourhoods. Flynn's network meanwhile would be an external unconnected network, unless they decide with this movie to connect it as some sort of last resort, ie Tron used as defence against the invasion for instance.
The conceit in the first movie seemed to be that every computer was somehow connected via the grid thanks to a scene that shows Sark taking part in a light cycle battle in an arcade machine. Though that opens up the question of what the other program there is doing if it's the arcade patron who is controlling the cycle.
It's best not to examine it all too closely.
It's best not to examine it all too closely.
The conceit in the first movie seemed to be that every computer was somehow connected via the grid thanks to a scene that shows Sark taking part in a light cycle battle in an arcade machine. Though that opens up the question of what the other program there is doing if it's the arcade patron who is controlling the cycle.
It's best not to examine it all too closely.
I forgot that the "grid" and the "system" included stand alone coin op arcade machines in the original.