Trek's lowest moment

[TheSubCommander]

I don't know about absolute worst but I've always found the episode Omega Glory to be pretty embarrassing.

I always loved "The Omega Glory".

"We killed thousands and they still came!"

I think it would make the basis of a kickass movie.

Most of the episode was fine, and I always thought that it was a missed opportunity by the spin off shows to explain why TOS found so many parallel earth civilizations, like Omega IV (Enterprise sort of touches on it in North Star). Captain Tracey made an excellent villain. The only thing that makes me cringe is Kirk reciting the constitution.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I don't know about absolute worst but I've always found the episode Omega Glory to be pretty embarrassing.

I always loved "The Omega Glory".

"We killed thousands and they still came!"

I think it would make the basis of a kickass movie.

Most of the episode was fine, and I always thought that it was a missed opportunity by the spin off shows to explain why TOS found so many parallel earth civilizations, like Omega IV (Enterprise sort of touches on it in North Star). Captain Tracey made an excellent villain. The only thing that makes me cringe is Kirk reciting the constitution.

That's my favorite part

 

[Gov Kodos]

I always loved "The Omega Glory".

"We killed thousands and they still came!"

I think it would make the basis of a kickass movie.

Most of the episode was fine, and I always thought that it was a missed opportunity by the spin off shows to explain why TOS found so many parallel earth civilizations, like Omega IV (Enterprise sort of touches on it in North Star). Captain Tracey made an excellent villain. The only thing that makes me cringe is Kirk reciting the constitution.

That's my favorite part

Mine, too.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I wasn't overly convinced by Spock having his brain reconnected in Spock's Brain. Or any of the rest of the episode. I had to double check I was, in fact, watching Star Trek and not having a bad dream.

But that one had such quotable lines

"Brain what is brain?"

 

[Chen]

That's usually my opener when I wake up! Got a good few boot errors that usually need shaking out. XD

 

[Jedman67]

Lol Chen!

The thing that bothers me most about Threshold is that up to a certain point its not a bad episode, at least not to me anyway. Its would never be a great episode but I think if they had come up with some other resolution it would have been average. I hate those 'devolution' themes...didn't like it when they did it in TNG either.

Both were written by Brannon Braga. No one seemed to have the guts to tell him it didn't work the first time.

This theme might also include the episode Extinction, as previously mentioned:

that really awful one where Archer and Hoshi turn into aliens and dream their way towards an ancient city.

Braga didn't write that one. The real problem with it is not so much the premise as the choice the actors made to play their atavistic alien selves as grotesque morons.

BTW, the above episode summary is not exactly accurate: "dreaming their way towards an ancient city" sounds like something from HP Lovecraft.

In other words, the execution. A bad recycling of "Threshold", bad acting (more like bad directing) and bad script. Had it been written by RDM, i imagine it could have made a very passable episode.

 

[eyeresist]

^ So you didn't actually read what I wrote...

 

[Marsden]

For me, Trek's lowest moment was around 1990, TNG was really in it's prime and STV was out recently. It started before this probably in 1987 but really got traction then.

It was the notion that Star Trek TNG was Star Trek and that quaint show from the 60s was just an artifact, a fluke, not the greatest show ever, because that was TNG. If you were one of those Star Trek fans, well you were just weird. I remember speaking with some TNG fans at the time and I mentioned spinoffs, I think DS9 just premiered, and most of them were startled, one acted insulted. Surely, that wasn't true. When I said Borg is a crappy name because it's just Cyborg without the Cy, well they looked positively beside themselves for not noticing that. And I'm not knocking TNG, I liked it, but Star Trek, with no subtitles, is my favorite episodic tv show.



Thankfully, that nonsense is just about extinct and some will probably deny it ever happened, but I remember it well. That's Trek's lowest moment for me.

 

[-Brett-]

Thankfully, that nonsense is just about extinct and some will probably deny it ever happened, but I remember it well. That's Trek's lowest moment for me.

It's hardly extinct. Only difference between AbramsTrek and TNG is that Abrams reused the old names. That version is no more the original than TNG was.

 

[WiredPlanet]

While I agree JJ has done great things for Trek I think he's attempts at turning a good part of the vision into Star Wars is a low point for Star Trek

 

[Triskelion]

When I said Borg is a crappy name because it's just Cyborg without the Cy, well they looked positively beside themselves for not noticing that.

I like the name. I also thought it was a bold move to go with cubes for their ships - which is the kind of thing you'd only expect to get in fiction. I'm very surprised they went with it in the visual medium of television, and I for one am glad they did.

All in all - the name, the ships, showing a species that discarded aesthetics altogether in favor of what would later become known as "Efficiency", but I thought of as "Monolithic Uniformity".

As for Trek's lowest moment, a few contenders come to mind....

• Data as the brothel prostitute in "Fistful of Datas"
  
• Riker's pickup patter with Guinan
• Troi and Neelix getting footrubs
  
• Phlox's tongue

And on paper I would have guessed any episode with Sara Silverman, Andy Dick or Scott Thompson - but they actually all did a great job!

 

[Zonker]

• Troi and Neelix getting footrubs

I've never made it past the first 10 seconds of Warlord.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Neelix was a low point of Trek.

 

[47of74]

Neelix was a low point of Trek.

Well at least he was not Jar Jar Binks bad.

 

[Drone]

I've never made it past the first 10 seconds of Warlord.

Well, that's unfortunate because you missed Neelix getting his freak on, but more importantly a superlative performance by Jennifer Lien in portraying a megalomaniacal and clearly male character extremely convincingly.

Neelix was a low point of Trek.

Hardly. If one could be bothered to take not much more than a little bit of time to examine the very detailed explication of his character in episodes such as Jetrel, Investigations, Fair Trade, Mortal Coil, Once Upon a Time, as well as telling snippets of his portrayal in many other episodes, I think it is very easy to see him as a complex character, who overcame his own tragedy and eventually had his noble, caring, and empathetic qualities become quite evident.

Of course, if one is determined to view him as a live action cartoon creation from the get go, I suppose it's easy to have that myopic view supported by the mere surface of his character. To each their own....

 

[Triskelion]

^Good list, Drone. Don't forget Rise. Pretty good characterization in there too.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I just found Neelix an annoying character.

 

[JoeCabby]

You could feel how embarrassed the actors felt when shooting this ridiculous scene.

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[JRoss]

Going back a ways, but I don't see the problem with the manual steering column. Tactile feedback is critical for flying or driving a car. They should have been using control sticks the whole time, at least for things other than autopilot. Was it the fact that it was presented as a joke?

 

[Kor]

Trek's lowest moment?

"Threshold"

or

"These are the Voyages"

Kor