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Trek's lowest moment

Oh slaps head.... I didn't know you had to opt in.....

Went there again and this is what I saw on the page

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That was a pretty solid effect for early-90's TV.

Sadly the actress had a large glass of water prior to filming ;)

Huh?

It was a great effect given the time. Wasn't she immediately dead when they found her? I vaguely remember this episode..

I always wondered that, did the floor split her in half? probably no, given they way it looks and there is no blood. I think it's intended to show that she's dead, which is weird because I would think something like that if she was rushed to surgery, she could actually survive. I mean, she'd probably not have use of her legs, but then again she could make a full recovery, given 24th century medicine, wasn't there a transporter accident on enterprise where someone had leaves and twigs infused in them and made a full recovery?
 
TNZ isn''t any good now. Now it's where you brain goes to die.

Upon which empirical evidence do you base this allegation?

As for Trek's lowest moment, I'd say probably Archer's line in "A Night In Sickbay" (an episode I understood, and am able to like the same way I understand and like Star Trek V, despite both being otherwise massive disappointments in their execution) where he fumbles out "I'm doing the breast I can" or some such nonsense.
 
Sadly the actress had a large glass of water prior to filming ;)

Huh?

It was a great effect given the time. Wasn't she immediately dead when they found her? I vaguely remember this episode..

I always wondered that, did the floor split her in half? probably no, given they way it looks and there is no blood. I think it's intended to show that she's dead, which is weird because I would think something like that if she was rushed to surgery, she could actually survive. I mean, she'd probably not have use of her legs, but then again she could make a full recovery, given 24th century medicine, wasn't there a transporter accident on enterprise where someone had leaves and twigs infused in them and made a full recovery?

Different time and different tech. In TNG the transporter was only used in emergencies, versus in Enterprise, where it was only used in emergencies.

I trust you see the difference.*

*with all due respect to SF Debris.
 
My vote is Spocks Brain. Actualy have it on now as CBS Action are repeating s3 just now. Its like a car crash thou, I cant take my eyes off it.
 
As for Trek's lowest moment, I'd say probably Archer's line in "A Night In Sickbay" (an episode I understood, and am able to like the same way I understand and like Star Trek V, despite both being otherwise massive disappointments in their execution) where he fumbles out "I'm doing the breast I can" or some such nonsense.

Is that because Trek should never address sex, even tangentially?
 
As for Trek's lowest moment, I'd say probably Archer's line in "A Night In Sickbay" (an episode I understood, and am able to like the same way I understand and like Star Trek V, despite both being otherwise massive disappointments in their execution) where he fumbles out "I'm doing the breast I can" or some such nonsense.

Is that because Trek should never address sex, even tangentially?

No. I have no problem with Star Trek referencing, showing, or addressing sex, either directly, indirectly, or tangentially.

The line in "A Nigh in Sickbay" is just a bad, awful line.
 
As for Trek's lowest moment, I'd say probably Archer's line in "A Night In Sickbay" (an episode I understood, and am able to like the same way I understand and like Star Trek V, despite both being otherwise massive disappointments in their execution) where he fumbles out "I'm doing the breast I can" or some such nonsense.

Is that because Trek should never address sex, even tangentially?

No. I have no problem with Star Trek referencing, showing, or addressing sex, either directly, indirectly, or tangentially.

The line in "A Nigh in Sickbay" is just a bad, awful line.

Cleverly argued.
 
As for Trek's lowest moment, I'd say probably Archer's line in "A Night In Sickbay" (an episode I understood, and am able to like the same way I understand and like Star Trek V, despite both being otherwise massive disappointments in their execution) where he fumbles out "I'm doing the breast I can" or some such nonsense.

Is that because Trek should never address sex, even tangentially?

No. I have no problem with Star Trek referencing, showing, or addressing sex, either directly, indirectly, or tangentially.

The line in "A Nigh in Sickbay" is just a bad, awful line.
Wacky sitcom level writing.
 
As Mojochi has pointed out, Picard is anything but a secular fundamentalist à la Dawkins, Hitchens or Harris (the way you use it "militant atheist" is a nonsensical term, these secular fundamentalists are the only folks I know who advocate violence in the name of atheism).

Dawkins, Hitchens and Harris advocate(d) violence in the name of atheism?
Hitchens called for bombing the Middle East, Harris advocated torture. You notice that they are the secular mirror image of religious fundamentalists as both read religious texts literally.

I can recommened the books Chris Hedges wrote about both factions, "American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America" and "When Atheism Becomes Religion: America's New Fundamentalists".
 
As for Trek's lowest moment, I'd say probably Archer's line in "A Night In Sickbay" (an episode I understood, and am able to like the same way I understand and like Star Trek V, despite both being otherwise massive disappointments in their execution) where he fumbles out "I'm doing the breast I can" or some such nonsense.

Is that because Trek should never address sex, even tangentially?

You think that line "address[ed] sex"? :wtf: :lol:
 
Unlike all the sexploitation in Trek, from Theiss wear to catsuits, "A Night in Sickbay" was actually ABOUT sex.
The episode was a bit over the top like Trouble with Tribbles but I fail to see why this should be a problem. Both episodes are definitely better than "standard meal" Trek (and TOS as well as ENT and all other series had ample of that).
 
Unlike all the sexploitation in Trek, from Theiss wear to catsuits, "A Night in Sickbay" was actually ABOUT sex.
The episode was a bit over the top like Trouble with Tribbles but I fail to see why this should be a problem. Both episodes are definitely better than "standard meal" Trek (and TOS as well as ENT and all other series had ample of that).

For me, it is because it comes out of nowhere and goes nowhere. The sexual tension is not saying that was ever really discussed before, and is brought up because Phlox decides to discuss it with Archer while Porthos needs critical surgery. No, that doesn't follow for me, either from character's personality or arcs at the time.

In addition, the central crisis comes about from Archer's failure as a diplomat, and that does not engender sympathy in a meaningful way from me.

Night in Sickbay may not be the worst (some would argue that, but I would not) but the characterization is not enjoyable for me.
 
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