Trek's lowest moment

[Nerys Myk]

Difference being of course that Andrea does not strip down to that, pose for the camera, and then put her clothes back on. That's her costume for the entirety of the episode. On top of which she wearing a hell of a lot more than Doctor Carol in the shuttle interior scene.

Even when we've seen strippers on the show they're wearing considerably more.

^Right. Terry Farrell wore a one-piece bathing suit for much of "Let He Who is Without Sin...", which was handled much tastefully than that, as she usually wore a cloth over the bottom of the suit.

--Sran

So the problem is she changed clothes and showed more skin?

 

[BillJ]

So the problem is she changed clothes and showed more skin?

It's funny. Alice Eve showed more skin yet Sherry Jackson left less to the imagination. God Bless William Ware Theiss!

 

[Mojochi]

This:

More or less objectionable? Little more cleavage & a visible naval? That's really what has ruined the franchise for you? Mine has hints of slavery & bondage in it

 

[Nerys Myk]

I rank that scene with Carol pretty low on the Trek Exploitation of Women scale. She's not a space hooker, Animal Woman or fantasy leather lesbian. She didn't strut through the scene like a stripper. The skimpy outfit is underwear and seen for seconds, rather than a regular "uniform" that is form fitting/revealing for no logical reason. Her dialog even advanced the plot!!!!!

 

[Mojochi]

Wait... It's more exploitive & demeaning to women to have a young doctor be in her underwear for a few seconds, & have that shown because someone in the scene might find her attractive, than it is to feature a woman as a fantasy animalistic creature to be considered less than human? I am thoroughly confused by that

Edit: Ah scratch that. I totally misinterpreted the above statement. Apologies. No wonder I was confused. lol

 

[Push The Button]

This:

That was the best scene in the movie.

 

[Push The Button]

So,the producers wanted to portray the effects of racial hatred and persecution.I get that.
But if that were so why not have Kirk and Spock dress up as KKKlansmen then?(an altogether more relevant topic in 60's America).
Not half the fun then,eh?

Because the wardrobe department has more Nazi uniforms.

I've often wondered if any of the props, uniforms and other paraphernalia seen in Patterns of Force had ever been used by the Hogan's Heroes production team, Desilu being the common thread shared by the two shows, of course.

 

[Gov Kodos]

This:

An attractive woman in skimpy clothes in a Star Trek production? That's about as rare as hydrogen.

Yup, Star Trek and sexuality has been about as sophisticated and offensive as a 12 year old shouting 'Boobies!'.

 

[Nerys Myk]

So,the producers wanted to portray the effects of racial hatred and persecution.I get that.
But if that were so why not have Kirk and Spock dress up as KKKlansmen then?(an altogether more relevant topic in 60's America).
Not half the fun then,eh?

Because the wardrobe department has more Nazi uniforms.

I've often wondered if any of the props, uniforms and other paraphernalia seen in Patterns of Force had ever been used by the Hogan's Heroes production team, Desilu being the common thread shared by the two shows, of course.

It wouldn't surprise me. Though they were in production at the same time, so Trek might have gone to a different source for POF.

 

[eyeresist]

1. The second "neuro-pressure" entered the Star Trek lexicon in ENT. Oh gawd, so cringeworthy. Really? Why not just call it "contrived-situation-for-sexy-coworkers-pressure"?

But in-universe it's a logical extension of the Vulcan nerve pinch.

Difference being of course that Andrea does not strip down to that, pose for the camera, and then put her clothes back on. That's her costume for the entirety of the episode. On top of which she wearing a hell of a lot more than Doctor Carol in the shuttle interior scene.

Even when we've seen strippers on the show they're wearing considerably more.

I'll point out again that both NuTrek movies feature Chris Pine jumping about in just his pants.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

1. The second "neuro-pressure" entered the Star Trek lexicon in ENT. Oh gawd, so cringeworthy. Really? Why not just call it "contrived-situation-for-sexy-coworkers-pressure"?

Yeah, and, in case that wasn't bad enough, the moment T'Pol and Tucker applied decon gel.


Oh, rats, .... that was "Broken Bow."

 

[BillJ]

1. The second "neuro-pressure" entered the Star Trek lexicon in ENT. Oh gawd, so cringeworthy. Really? Why not just call it "contrived-situation-for-sexy-coworkers-pressure"?

Yeah, and, in case that wasn't bad enough, the moment T'Pol and Tucker applied decon gel.


Oh, rats, .... that was "Broken Bow."

I think people forget "The Price".

 

[Zek]

The most cringe-worthy moment in TOS for me is a toss up between the entire "gangster world" episode in A Piece of the Action or when Kirk calls Spock Chinese in The City at the Edge of Forever.

 

[Jetboogieman]

The most cringe-worthy moment in TOS for me is a toss up between the entire "gangster world" episode in A Piece of the Action or when Kirk calls Spock Chinese in The City at the Edge of Forever.

The thing I found the most funny about that is the scene where they stun the entire group of guys outside the building.

Never ever used again in the show lol.

Though overall I kinda liked that episode, it was fun at least.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I loved "A Piece of the Action" - the "Chicago gang" style was hilarious, and I do like the concept of an entire civilization of people who love to imitate things and jumped on "The Book" as the foundation of their society.

As for the Chinese thing - I would have just had Kirk say that Spock was injured in some way (perhaps in WWI) and this is the best the plastic surgeon could do.

 

[scotpens]

It's funny. Alice Eve showed more skin yet Sherry Jackson left less to the imagination. God Bless William Ware Theiss!

Alice Eve's undies look pretty securely fastened, but Sherry Jackson's costume looks as if it could come undone or something could pop out at any moment. It's the "Theiss Titillation Theory."

 

[Nerys Myk]

Lt Palamas's gown is a prime example of that theory.

 

[scotpens]

The most cringe-worthy moment in TOS for me is a toss up between the entire "gangster world" episode in A Piece of the Action or when Kirk calls Spock Chinese in The City at the Edge of Forever.

I never thought Spock looked particularly Chinese, except perhaps for his skin tone. But "cringe-worthy"? Hardly. That scene with the cop is a classic Trek comedy moment.

 

[Shaka Zulu]

This:

An attractive woman in skimpy clothes in a Star Trek production? That's about as rare as hydrogen.

Considering that Kirk was in his skivvies under the bed of Galia in the 2009 movie, I'm not sure how bad it is. Also, this was a life lesson, in which Kirk (after having done this and worse to Chapel, making her leave the ship) learns not to do this to anybody else again.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

This:

An attractive woman in skimpy clothes in a Star Trek production? That's about as rare as hydrogen.

Considering that Kirk was in his skivvies under the bed of Galia in the 2009 movie, I'm not sure how bad it is. Also, this was a life lesson, in which Kirk (after having done this and worse to Chapel, making her leave the ship) learns not to do this to anybody else again.

Where does he make Chapel leave the ship?