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Trek VI 25th anniversay

I remember feeling how... small the story from "Insurrection" felt compared to the epic stories of all the preceding movies, and how, on first viewing, "Nemesis" felt disappointing (though I have come to love it on re-runs). By this time, Paramount was pulling the plug - "Enterprise" was conscripted for 4-seasons (PERIOD!) so they could get it into syndication. The Trek factory was being shut down.

Whilst NEM isn't without it's flaws at least it was more abitious than INS.
 
I remember enjoying how they "aged" the interior of the Enterprise; [...] that the uniforms of the main crew had that worn, near thread-bare appearance.
I think that was more that the TWOK uniforms were getting a bit worn out by that point than an intentional bit of art direction. I remember Kim Cattrall commenting in an interview that her uniform was originally made in 1982 for someone else (Kirstie Alley, I imagine), and that she had to have to it reshaped for her.
 
Do you mean reused FX footage or actual scenes from a the TV series?

The Generations teaser uses a shot of the Bozeman from "Cause and Effect" as well as the Borg Cube exploding from "Best of Both Worlds, Part II," while the First Contact trailer had Voyager footage in it.
 
I've never been a huge fan of TUC. It always seemed cheap (because it was) and rushed (because it was) to me. I've also always thought that you can get away with silly, sloppy plot holes in standard sci-fi adventure movies... but when you try to craft a taught political thriller, slop sticks out like a sore thumb. TUC has too much slop to pass as a tight political thriller, and this works dreadfully against it in my view. Additionally, the pacing and editing of the film are damn-near abysmal.

That said, it's STILL (after all that) an enjoyable film. Although I tend to like Trek somewhat "differently" than most fans (I love S3 of TOS...love TFF...love S1 and S2 of TNG...really like NEM, etc) in terms of my tastes...I always look at the unending love TUC gets and think that I may need to revisit the film with a fresh pair of eyes soon.
 
I thought it was a strong film and I liked the way it elegantly weaved itself into larger Trek history. Watching it as a companion to TNG's Unification was something I personally got a kick out of.
 
I thought it was a strong film and I liked the way it elegantly weaved itself into larger Trek history. Watching it as a companion to TNG's Unification was something I personally got a kick out of.
I personally love the irony that right after Spock discovered the betrayal of Valeris, he was set up for another betrayal at Khitomer in the form of Pardek.

I also love the irony that the conspirators prove that humans, Klingons, and Romulans can work together while trying to prevent the peace process.
 
My second favourite of the Trek movies, despite some notable flaws. I find the dialogue is among the sharpest in the franchise (excluding the stupid "Cinderella" bit), and Shatner and Plummer's playing off of each other is glorious. Meyers direction is a step above what we normally got in the TOS/TNG films, which is to be expected when you have a real director and not a TV actor (or film editor) trying his hand at directing.

I liked the cold war underpinnings and the main assassination plot but the prison sequence and the ENT crew stopping the assassination at the end don't live up to the first act set up or the excellent space battle portion of the climax.
 
After TVH they just couldn't avoid the Paramount mandated "funny bits" -- the translation scene...:barf:
a final opportunity to show Uhura as something other than a switchboard operator and.....fail.
Meyer didn't want it. Nichols hated it. And we're stuck with it.
 
I found it funny in 1991 as a 17 year old but over time I've realised that it's a dreadfully goofy scene that makes uhura and the rest of the people in the bridge look incompetent. It's the worst bit of humour in the film for me.

Well I don't find it as funny as I did when I was 11, but I still think it's a fun scene.
 
After TVH they just couldn't avoid the Paramount mandated "funny bits" -- the translation scene...:barf:
a final opportunity to show Uhura as something other than a switchboard operator and.....fail.
Meyer didn't want it. Nichols hated it. And we're stuck with it.
What are you talking about? Meyer wrote it.
 
I found it funny in 1991 as a 17 year old but over time I've realised that it's a dreadfully goofy scene that makes uhura and the rest of the people in the bridge look incompetent. It's the worst bit of humour in the film for me.
I agree, considering after thirty years of service, if not more, the Head of Communications/Operations of a starship and a Lt Commander, does not know the language of the Federation's greatest enemy? Yeah right. Or maybe it was an obscure Klingon dialect....like Latin.
 
I agree, considering after thirty years of service, if not more, the Head of Communications/Operations of a starship and a Lt Commander, does not know the language of the Federation's greatest enemy? Yeah right. Or maybe it was an obscure Klingon dialect....like Latin.

Of course one could always have gotten the computer to give a text transaltion, not to mention you could type in what you wanted to say and the computer could give you a text translation of that. No need for any books.
 
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