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Trek n' Weed

A truly enlightened society would never make it illegal for someone to own or use a drug, but would make it illegal to engage in activities whilst under that drug's influence that would harm or potentially harm others. So I imagine Starfleet officers can smoke a joint if they want -- but they damn well better be sober when their duty shift begins.

Sure, but weed makes you really dumb after long-term use. And don't tell me that it doesn't.

Sure. But you have the right to harm yourself. What you do not have the right to do is harm others. Read John Stuart Mill's On Liberty, particularly his sections about drinking alcohol.
 
Wow, tough crowd. Maybe you should open your eyes rather than roll them.

Remember Alcohol, which is cleary less harmful that MJ, is used regularly off duty in Trek (most characters hate synthehol), and if a SF member operated a warp drive while drunk, there would be consequences. Trek has a history with alcohol, Scotty, Klingon Blood Wine, etc. Picard drinking illegal Romulan Ale.

It would be very possible that marijuana would be legal in more enlightened times, but a TV show can't really go there due to ratings, censors, etc. Classic Trek pushed the envelope as it was already back then.

Illegal drugs are not for enlightened people. They are for people that make bad life choices.
 
A truly enlightened society would never make it illegal for someone to own or use a drug, but would make it illegal to engage in activities whilst under that drug's influence that would harm or potentially harm others. So I imagine Starfleet officers can smoke a joint if they want -- but they damn well better be sober when their duty shift begins.

I'd imagine they would have instant detox you could shoot up to instantly shake the effects of any narcotic, thus rendering synthehol completely redundant. (Indeed, perhaps synthehol is alcohol with the detoxer already mixed in, to be activated when it chemically senses the drinker needs a clear head.)

On a related topic, does anyone else retroactively read "The Menagerie" (not "The Cage") as an allegory in support of medical marijuana?
 
Some might think any appearance on that stage as "making it." :)

All I know is that sketch gave me the freakin' chills already. I always wondered why he bothered.

As for Sagan and weed: Meh. Anyone who gave us Cosmos can't be all bad!

I like to get high. I just finished my MA with a 4.0 and, next Wednesday, I'm going to Manhattan to meet with a literary agent who (w/o my requesting her to do so) read a copy of my novel manuscript and wants to represent me.

Yep. Me and Carl, a couple of dead-enders.
 
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If chemical recreation does exist in Star Trek, I'd expect them to have moved on to something more sophisticated--not to mention more sanitary--than setting vegetable matter on fire. :lol:


Marian
 
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Wow, tough crowd. Maybe you should open your eyes rather than roll them.

Remember Alcohol, which is cleary less harmful that MJ, is used regularly off duty in Trek (most characters hate synthehol), and if a SF member operated a warp drive while drunk, there would be consequences. Trek has a history with alcohol, Scotty, Klingon Blood Wine, etc. Picard drinking illegal Romulan Ale.

It would be very possible that marijuana would be legal in more enlightened times, but a TV show can't really go there due to ratings, censors, etc. Classic Trek pushed the envelope as it was already back then.

Illegal drugs are not for enlightened people. They are for people that make bad life choices.

But if those drugs were legal it would be OK with you I'd assume?
 
A truly enlightened society would never make it illegal for someone to own or use a drug, but would make it illegal to engage in activities whilst under that drug's influence that would harm or potentially harm others. So I imagine Starfleet officers can smoke a joint if they want -- but they damn well better be sober when their duty shift begins.

Sure, but weed makes you really dumb after long-term use. And don't tell me that it doesn't.

Sure. But you have the right to harm yourself. What you do not have the right to do is harm others. Read John Stuart Mill's On Liberty, particularly his sections about drinking alcohol.

Of course. I wouldn't want to deny anyone's right to smoke whatever he wants. Done it myself a few times. It's just sad when you see someone who has just smoked himself retarded.
 
What about some kind of synthijuana?:rommie:
You get a cough and you get 'the munchies' but you still don't think Seinfeld is funny? -yeah, I can see a lot of people on that in the future…

Sure, but weed makes you really dumb after long-term use. And don't tell me that it doesn't.
Indeed it does -but only if that "long-term use" is also excessive!

I know both long-term users that aren't capable of putting together a sentence in normal conversation and long-term users that have long fancy educations and good jobs.

Yeah, excessive. That's what I meant.
 
What about some kind of synthijuana?:rommie:
You get a cough and you get 'the munchies' but you still don't think Seinfeld is funny? -yeah, I can see a lot of people on that in the future…

Sure, but weed makes you really dumb after long-term use. And don't tell me that it doesn't.
Indeed it does -but only if that "long-term use" is also excessive!

I know both long-term users that aren't capable of putting together a sentence in normal conversation and long-term users that have long fancy educations and good jobs.

Yeah, excessive. That's what I meant.

To quote David Cross's "Judas" in the Mr. Show sketch "Jeepers Creepers Semi-Star": "It's alright to get high sometimes but all the time, well that's not fine!"
 
Wow, tough crowd. Maybe you should open your eyes rather than roll them.

Remember Alcohol, which is cleary less harmful that MJ, is used regularly off duty in Trek (most characters hate synthehol), and if a SF member operated a warp drive while drunk, there would be consequences. Trek has a history with alcohol, Scotty, Klingon Blood Wine, etc. Picard drinking illegal Romulan Ale.

It would be very possible that marijuana would be legal in more enlightened times, but a TV show can't really go there due to ratings, censors, etc. Classic Trek pushed the envelope as it was already back then.

Illegal drugs are not for enlightened people. They are for people that make bad life choices.

Being judgemental is a bad life choice. That stuff will give you a "heart" attack! Carl Sagan was a world class scientist, intelligent and respected, you are not. :brickwall:
 
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Sure, but weed makes you really dumb after long-term use. And don't tell me that it doesn't.

Sure. But you have the right to harm yourself. What you do not have the right to do is harm others. Read John Stuart Mill's On Liberty, particularly his sections about drinking alcohol.

Of course. I wouldn't want to deny anyone's right to smoke whatever he wants. Done it myself a few times. It's just sad when you see someone who has just smoked himself retarded.

Doesn't exist. You quicker drink yourself retarded than smoke weed yourself retarded.

Sure, but weed makes you really dumb after long-term use. And don't tell me that it doesn't.
Indeed it does -but only if that "long-term use" is also excessive!

I know both long-term users that aren't capable of putting together a sentence in normal conversation and long-term users that have long fancy educations and good jobs.

Yeah, excessive. That's what I meant.
Doesn't exist. I repeat; any people you know that smoke that are retarded, were retarded before they started smoking.
 
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