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Trek n' Weed

1932 in the United States.

1932?

Well, I was just being a smart ass. The Uniform State Narcotics Act was passed in 32, iirc, and it encouraged states to ban Cannabis. I wasn't actually being serious there.

Actaully, it was still legal in 1932. Marijuana beame illegal in September of 1937 via the Marihuana Prohibitive Tax Law that was brought to Congress in April of the same year.

Kike and Spock should have stopped it... "Weed on the Edge of Forever"
 
I doubt very much, that narcotics would be a part of any truly utopian society.
Since when is marijuana classified as a "narcotic"? :confused:

1932 in the United States.

The more useful question, of course, would be "is marijuana classified scientifically or medically as a narcotic?" The U.S. Congress could legal declare the value of pi to be 3.0 if they liked, and that wouldn't make it so.
 
I could see restaurants and replicators offering weed on their menus a-la Amsterdam, but I could also see it as being actively discouraged by a Starfleet C.M.O. while someone's on active duty.

I could see a Federation Doctor feeling compelled out of genuine concern to offer the "offending patient" the option of being issued something via hypospray to disseminate the "high" before being allowed to safely resume a person's duties with a clear head, proven via visual inspection and someone passing a tricorder over you.

Or, if the patient proves combative/uncooperative, a Starfleet/Federation doctor could be authorized to confine them to their quarters until they sleep it off naturally for their own safety or revoke all holodeck or other privileges such as shore leave that might prove unwise/unsafe while under the influence, to reduce the risk of someone under the influence inciting diplomatic incidents while on shore leave on non-Federation worlds.
 
I don't think that even a "free society" can allow drug abuse due to the costs for society and the damage it causes.

You mean, like using a drug that will clear your sinuses, but has the side-effect of heart failure and death?

Seriously, smoking a joint, or even taking a shot of cocaine does not "abuse" make.

Or for that matter, getting drunk on alcohol, getting behind a while, and driving a kid to death?

The latter would indeed be abuse, and is not allowed, you are punished for such action, but does that mean we ban alcohol altogether?

What about the criminality which is caused by drug abuse?
Criminality is not caused by drug use, drug abuse - as in the car and alcohol above - is criminal in and of itself, and it thus does not cause criminality; whatever caused it came before.

Growing drugs, making it, and selling it, wouldn't be drug abuse, nor criminal if it wasn't illegal. Nor would it create "criminality".

When alcohol was illegal back in the twenties, there were massive amounts of criminals making and selling the stuff, and killing people over it. Now that it's legal, they're no longer around.

Besides that, a good society cares for the health of the people and drugs damages people's health.
Like the drug to clear your sinuses that can kill you?

This is simple matter of what's important, liberty or YOUR ideas of someone is or is not allowed live his/her life, because of YOUR ideas of what constitutes a threat to his/her health.

Me, I personally ascribe to the following:

"The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical or moral, is not sufficient warrant."
- John Stuart Mill
On Liberty, 1859

That means any recreational drug should be legal.
 
Damn Lynx, you need to spark a j.
No-one needs to. :rolleyes: (<- again)
Dude, that's a lyric from a Paul Simon song.


BTW, Simon & Garfunkel are considered two of the greatest song writers of our time. Guess what, they were reeeal high all the time.

You think Robert Smith hasn't toked up in his time?

Hell, people in Roman times smoked weed. Guess what folks, no Empire fell due to smoking weed.
 
Everybody who is expressing a serious distaste for a little weed smoking now and then: How many of you also express distaste at the thought of Risa? Am I correct in thinking that most of you have a problem with toking up, but would visit Risa in a heartbeat?

Edit: And no, this isn't going to turn into a "haw haw you need to get laid" joke. It's a serious question. If you have been talking down pot in this thread, would you visit Risa?
 
BTW, Simon & Garfunkel are considered two of the greatest song writers of our time.
Yeah, I know. ;)

Guess what, they were reeeal high all the time.
I guess I just don't really care.

You think Robert Smith hasn't toked up in his time?
Oh, I'm sure he did. But that doesn't mean everybody needs to do it, does it? ;)
Just like you don't need to take a post made for humor so literally.;)
 
^ Misunderstanding. I thought you meant your post. Sorry.

Well, I know the topic of this thread isn't meant all that serious. But I think the consumption of drugs is.
 
What's the federation going to do if it's a cultural norm to do a little blow - nothing at all - that's the federation way.


Anyway - Dax always struck me as someone who liked a toot on a crackpipe.
 
------Oh come on, someone asking which fictional characters of a sci-fi show smoke weed can't in anyway be serious. That's like asking if Bugs Bunny smokes up.


Hehe. I wanna know what the fuck Daffy is on.
 
I remember a dialog between Harry and Tom where they implied if you consume holographic wine, you are drunk only until you leave the holodeck (I could be wrong about that dialog though).
Maybe this might be considered "acceptable" drug use for crew members. You could roast a huge holobowl with Einstein, Washington, Willy Nelson and Peter Tosh and be sober as soon as you leave the HD and go to duty.
 

Well, I was just being a smart ass. The Uniform State Narcotics Act was passed in 32, iirc, and it encouraged states to ban Cannabis. I wasn't actually being serious there.

Actaully, it was still legal in 1932. Marijuana beame illegal in September of 1937 via the Marihuana Prohibitive Tax Law that was brought to Congress in April of the same year.

Well, 37 was the year the feds banned it. I believe the Uniform State Narcotics Act was a Federal law recommending states ban it (wasn't mandatory). I could be wrong.

Since when is marijuana classified as a "narcotic"? :confused:

1932 in the United States.

The more useful question, of course, would be "is marijuana classified scientifically or medically as a narcotic?" The U.S. Congress could legal declare the value of pi to be 3.0 if they liked, and that wouldn't make it so.

Absolutely right.

Unfortunately, I seem to be the prime person in dragging this off topic, so I'll try and stop that. In all honesty, the federation seems to value freedoms a lot, so I can't imagine them banning drugs. It might vary from planet to planet. Someone brought up Risa, which is a good example, since it seems to be a federation member (possibly debatable), but allows lots of freedoms that a planet like Bajor (not a federation member) might not allow.
 
I don't know about Weed but I do recall Sisko planning to settle down on Bajor and grow Kava.
 
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