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Trek n' Weed

I don't know about Weed but I do recall Sisko planning to settle down on Bajor and grow Kava.

On Bajor, the thing they call 'kava' is analogous to our coffee.

It's just that I have run into too many of the pro-legalization crowd who think that I am some kind of uptight fascist reactionary for daring to be against drugs of any kind ...
Were you just kidding then about the coffee?

I didn't say I was against all drugs (as I am indeed fond of coffee). I was speaking metaphorically: there are those who won't let me be against *any* drug at all without calling me a repressive Nazi.

As for booze: I have had experience with that. And it wasn't pretty. :( So pardon me if I don't advocate it either. I don't favor a return of prohibition either, of course. That didn't work. Do I favor immediate legalization of all drugs, then? I in all good conscience can't go that far, but I am thinking about the situation.

Just sayin': There are not just two extremes, i.e. advocate vs. reactionary. There's a middle ground.
 
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There's probably a thread dedicated to "immediate legalization of all drugs" around here but this isn't it and let's not hijack it - today. :) Thinking about the situation is good enough, esp. given your awareness that Prohibition didn't work.
 
^ Well, as for the immediate thread topic: I think we are all in agreement on at least two things:

- Weed is probably freely available in Trek's time;

and, just as important, if not more so:

- Starfleet would certainly insist that its members wouldn't use it while on duty. And they would have every right to do so.

As for Scotty's drinking, for example: I can't remember, did he ever show up for a duty shift while drunk? If not, then let him drink. If so, then Kirk should have thrown him in the brig. That's not hard to understand, is it?
 
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I'd add another entry to your list: in Trek's time it's clear that anybody who doesn't want to use it, doesn't have to. Also true of coffee, poor hapless creatures. :)

Scott drank on duty to subdue the Kelvan once, trying to recapture the ship. And everybody got seriously juiced on duty at the end of "Wolf in the Fold." Then there's the dinner of "The Undiscovered Country" of course. They could certainly tie one on in TOS if they had to.
 
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Was Romulan Ale illegal because of a trade embargo, or because of it's intoxicating properties?

Trade embargo. It was legalized when the Federation had peaceful relations with the Romulans (during the Dominian War) and banned after tensions had resumed (Nemesis).
:rommie: I went a really long way to get an answer to this very question tonight -Google send me back here to your post to find the answer to my question: Why is Romulan Ale forbidden?
Thanks AJ :bolian:

My thought is that most drugs are legalized, although they can't be used by officers on duty.
Indeed, there is the (in)famous "no smoking on bridge at anytime" sign on the Enterprise bridge :rommie: :rommie:


-Sorry to disturb the thread like this, just wanted to say thanks for the info!

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Or is that the simulator they did the Kobayashi Maru training exercise in?
 
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A truly enlightened society would never make it illegal for someone to own or use a drug, but would make it illegal to engage in activities whilst under that drug's influence that would harm or potentially harm others. So I imagine Starfleet officers can smoke a joint if they want -- but they damn well better be sober when their duty shift begins.

Sure, but weed makes you really dumb after long-term use. And don't tell me that it doesn't.
 
What about some kind of synthijuana?:rommie:
You get a cough and you get 'the munchies' but you still don't think Seinfeld is funny? -yeah, I can see a lot of people on that in the future…

Sure, but weed makes you really dumb after long-term use. And don't tell me that it doesn't.
Indeed it does -but only if that "long-term use" is also excessive!

I know both long-term users that aren't capable of putting together a sentence in normal conversation and long-term users that have long fancy educations and good jobs.
 
No, long-term use, no matter how excessive, will NOT make you dumb.

Any weed users that you know are dumb, were dumb before they even started to smoke weed.
 
I actually think it's about how much of it is in your system at any given time, the 'dumb' factor is probably just the actual effect of the drug itself.
 
I actually think it's about how much of it is in your system at any given time, the 'dumb' factor is probably just the actual effect of the drug itself.

Some people on alcohol are dumb, other people on alcohol become violent maniacs, and others on alcohol just get happy.

Does that mean we ban alcohol altogether, and say it turns all people into something?

Weed is no different, yet somehow there all these stories and claims (all false) about what weed does to everybody without fail.
 
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