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Trek Movies Blu ray help

I just got ST S1 and the TOS movie set on blu-ray. The visuals are a-maz-ing. I haven't gotten through all of them (damn getting them for Christmas along with The Matrix and both Star Wars trilogies. I can only watch so much tv....)

One thing I did notice was that in TUC the Rene Auberjonois cameo as Colonel West was removed completely. Does anyone know why this happened? Also, are there any other drastic changes from the dual-disc special edition DVDs?

Otherwise, awesome sets. And ST09 was also the first blu-ray I bought and what I show people on the home theatre to justify the expense.

Now I just can't wait to start upgrading my TNG sets.
 
The Caprican said:
One thing I did notice was that in TUC the Rene Auberjonois cameo as Colonel West was removed completely. Does anyone know why this happened?
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That's annoying- it's probably because the version of STVI released on VHS had about six additional minutes of film added in from the theatrical edition- damned annoying that it's been removed, though, I love his 'clean their chronometers' line.
 
BillJ said:
Brikar99 said:
The Trek film blu-rays are definitely an improvement over the DVDs, they're just not as good as they could or should be. I found the transfers for 'Voyage Home' and 'Undiscovered Country' to be rather underwhelming in comparison to other blu-rays, but still better than the DVDs, especially when it comes to color and definitely in the sound department.

Honestly, though, I think they're still worth getting even though I was kind of disappointed. The set is pretty cheap these days, so if better versions do come out eventually, I don't think it'll hurt the wallet too much.

The 2009 'Star Trek' is easily one of the best-looking and sounding blu-rays I've seen. Color and detail are phenomenal, and the surround track is a house-shaker. Can't recommend that one enough.
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See I thought VI was one of the best looking ones out of the first ten films. :shrug:

But I agree their definitely worth the purchase even though they're not reference quality. I paid less than a hundred total for the first ten films.

Agreed that Star Trek 2009 is one that you show if you want to show off your home theater system. :techman:
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Well, it's been a little while since I watched it, but... "Undiscovered Country" has sharp edges and wonderful color, but small object detail is pretty poor - particularly skin and clothing textures. The problem is the dreaded "digital noise reduction" -- the picture has been scrubbed clean of film grain, but this has the unintended side effect of destroying fine details like skin pores.

Of the first ten films, I felt "Wrath of Khan," "First Contact" and "Nemesis" look the best.
 
The Caprican said:
One thing I did notice was that in TUC the Rene Auberjonois cameo as Colonel West was removed completely. Does anyone know why this happened?
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Because there was a demand for the original theatrical version to be released. The "Scooby Doo" ending, and a few other extras, were originally added for the first home video release.

Off the top of my head, there was also Valeris on the fireman's pole, Scotty complaining about "that Klingon bitch", Operation: Retrieve, some lines from the Federation President - and, from the Director's Edition, the images of all the conspirators during Valeris's mind rape.
 
There are 3 versions of TUC.......

1. Theatrical 1991 (109 min 48 sec)

2. "home video version" 1992 AND (113min and 12 sec)

3. revised "home video version" 2002 (113 and 14 sec)

The home video version is 3 min 24 seconds longer
The revised version is 3 min 26 seconds longer with no real line changes--only alternate angles and the shots of the conspirators inserted in the meld scene.

Also note that the Blu-ray format adds a few seconds to each movie for some tech. reason.
Every movie is longer on Blu-ray that the same cut on DVD (The theatrical cut of TUC is, I think, 110 minutes 0 seconds on Blu-ray)



It was a true crime that all 3 versions weren't included on a format that makes it all to easy to have multiple versions.

Nothing but a cheap ploy to have another set when the next movie comes out.

I'm glad for the folks who finally got the theatrical version, but despise the, "ha, ha, I don't care about the longer versions because i finally got my theatrical version." of some of them.

Yes, there was a demand for the theatrical version NOT that it be the ONLY Blu-ray version
 
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Grant said:
I'm glad for the folks who finally got the theatrical version, but despise the, "ha, ha, I don't care about the longer versions because i finally got my theatrical version." of some of them.

Yes, there was a demand for the theatrical version NOT that it be the ONLY Blu-ray version.
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Wow, really?! I don't remember seeing any of that childish bad attitude! Although I have a definite leaning toward the theatrical releases, I certainly wouldn't begrudge anyone an HD copy of their preferred version. I've even retained my SE DVD copies of TMP, TWOK and TUC to keep my collection complete.
 
Grant said:
Nothing but a cheap ploy to have another set when the next movie comes out.
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Without this "cheap ploy", DVDs and Blu-Rays would fall "out of print". The stores refuse to keep ordering in old stock, because it takes up shelf space and gathers dust. They demand that box packaging, bonus features, commentaries, etc, get revamped periodically to keep old favourites competitive with new releases.

If you got your wish, for one definitive Blu-Ray that had all three versions on one disc, seamless branching, simulated 3D, photo galleries, digital copies, etc., it would be on shelves for a year or two, move to the discount tables, then disappear forever. Fine for you, but not for new fans, or old fans rediscovering a classic movie now that they have disposable income.

LOKAI of CHERON said:
I've even retained my SE DVD copies of TMP, TWOK and TUC to keep my collection complete.
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I've retained all of mine, mainly because the commentaries are by different people.
 
I thought the Blu-Rays ported most of the commentaries from the DVDs? The TWOK Blu-Ray certainly ports Nick Meyer's old commentary (albeit editing it for time, since it was recorded for the Director's Edition, not the theatrical version). I don't own the others.
 
J. Allen said:
While I bought them as a set, I have to say, if anyone needs a reason to buy them, I'll lay it out here right now, one for each movie:

1] The Enterprise inspection flyover in TMP.
2] The Mutara Nebula battle in TWOK.
3] The Kirk/Kruge/planet hell scene in TSFS.
4] The Slingshot around the Sun in TVH.
5] The mountain climbing/campfire scenes in TFF.
6] The Praxis explosion and Excelsior intro in TUC.
7] The Enterprise D's separation and then crash landing onto Veridian III.
8] The Borg battle during the beginning sequence of FC.
9] The battle between the Enterprise E and the S'ona in the Briar Patch in INS.
10] The opening Romulan Senate title sequence in NEM.
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I never did get around to getting any Trek movies on blu-ray. You're making me want to break down and do so, however! :D

One question tho... I figured there might be a single set with all ten movies (like the DVD movie set that I have), but my searching on Amazon turned up only separate sets for the TOS films and the TNG films. That you know of, IS there one big set somewhere, or do I need to just buy both?
11*] The Kelvin/Narada battle in the title intro in ST09.

*I realize ST09 isn't a part of the boxed set, but I'm not kidding. This movie is a showpiece for anyone who has an HD theater system.
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This I actually do have, and I agree. I don't have an HD "theater system", per se, but I do have a pretty nice HDTV that I've had for maybe a bit more than a year. That opening (by far the best part of the whole movie) is really stunning. We got the TV home, and it was like "Ok get the Trek XI blu-ray out so we can watch the opening sequence!" :lol:
 
Sadly, yes, I have seen fans of the theatrical gloat and blow-off fans of the longer versions after the Blu-ray release.

I don't it's the majority of fans--just an annoying few.

I hope the next Blu-ray release doesn't have the longer version only---because though I prefer the longer- I like to compare.
 
I know someone mentioned this before, but the color timing of ST II is very different and I don't think it's a good thing or correct. Ceti Alpha V should not be grey, it has been and always shall be BROWN as it was in 1982 and beyond.

Beware some fx shots towards the end of ST II Bluray look almost black and white instead of the warm red/brown tones we are used to. That ain't right.
 
^^ I agree 100% although i know you are referring to Regual in that shot.

The stills they used in Starlog at the time in 1982 and other magazines all showed Regula as reddish. No way they sent out stills and vintage material all wrong and then followed up with 25 years of wrong color on VHS, Laserdisc, Beta, TV prints, DVD and THEN got the color right in the Blu-ray release.
 
22 Stars said:
I know someone mentioned this before, but the color timing of ST II is very different and I don't think it's a good thing or correct. Ceti Alpha V should not be grey, it has been and always shall be BROWN as it was in 1982 and beyond.

Beware some fx shots towards the end of ST II Bluray look almost black and white instead of the warm red/brown tones we are used to. That ain't right.
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I don't agree. The colour timing was obviously altered for aesthetic reasons - and I think it looks far more naturalistic and cinematic overall, particularly in skin tones. I've always felt there was an OTT red push on previous home video releases. Also, I can't remember how the movie looked on the silver screen back in the day - who's to say the BD's colour timing isn't closer to the original?
 
For anyone wondering its the "original series motion picture collection" and the "next generation motion picture collection" for the blu ray sets. All are original theatrical releases but have a load of original and new special features with an extra disc with a extended feature like the "captains summit" I believe was with the original series collection and this feature is really awsome worth seeing. The Next Generation motion picture collection had a "evolutions" featurette on a seperate disc but I haven't bothered to see that yet.

Also to note is the transfers vary from movie to movie but all are pretty good no matter what. Wrath of Khan was great, while Voyage Home seemed a little underwhelming for some reason but was still great to enjoy. One transfer that really got me was Star Trek Nemesis with the intensive battle scenes nothing beats seeing that in 1080p along with Wrath of Khan.

As some have said First Contact was also a great transfer, and also the blu ray really has given these films a ton of new life if your a classic fan of these before seeing them on the old tape and dvd releases you will be blown away. I had seen many of the films on dvd only once before I bought the set, the reason I bought the set is because I hadn't seen a few of the films and the ones I had seen not for a long time so this has been a real great experience for me overall.

There are also dvd versions of these sets to note but if you already have the old releases thats completely pointless lol.
 
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