I'll grant the season had some flaws, but I'd say a cliffhanger that upends the whole status quo of the series in one fell swoop is pretty interesting.
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I'll grant the season had some flaws, but I'd say a cliffhanger that upends the whole status quo of the series in one fell swoop is pretty interesting.
Your interpretation could be correct, but I think you may be confusing time traveled messages and travelers. The former is a programmed message (in the electronic voice of the Director) and can only be performed safely with child hosts. The latter are full consciousnesses sent from the future. Presumedly, the Director chose to send messages rather than travelers in many of those cases because the candidate bodies were not seen as useful enough to warrant the use of a trained volunteer.
Good news everybody.
Travelers has been renewed for season 3.
https://renewcanceltv.com/travelers-renewed-season-3-netflix-showcase/
Travelers has been renewed for season 3.
https://renewcanceltv.com/travelers-renewed-season-3-netflix-showcase/
Netflix has worked some voodoo, and S3 will now be a global exclusive, with Showcase in Canada no longer it's Canuk homebase.
Edit-ha, it seems Variety was late to the party, reporting the same info that was posted weeks ago. Soooory!
Edit-ha, it seems Variety was late to the party, reporting the same info that was posted weeks ago. Soooory!
Pushing a Travelers conscience into a (dying) adult IS killing them. They're just doing it before their natural end. Then usually the incoming Traveler prevents the death from happening, but the host is dead. If the host actually died before transfer, they'd be dead.
Yes, but that's not what I'm talking about. We've been shown time and time again that if someone who isn't already about to die has a download put into them, or is taken over by the Director to communicate a message, it physically kills their body a few moments later. As I understand it, that's why they only choose people who were about to die -- because somehow they're the only ones that can physically survive it.
No, I believe you're mistaken. If a message is sent thru someone, not a child, they will die. Conscience transfer is not fatal. Now, we're talking about the physical body and the host conscience.
Transmitting messages to an adult consciousness in the past will disrupt that consciousness, potentially to death.
The physical body, even the brain, is fine.
We learned this season that the director has MORAL issues with killing people in the past who have full lives yet to live and is only willing to murder those in the past who are seconds away from dying from historically cited causes.
Murder is wrong.
The directors reservations have nothing to do with Time Travel rules.
Killing enemy Travelers, or executing criminals in their own Traveler ranks, however is fine, because they are criminals, enemy combatants and AI.
Travelers are not "real" people.
They are digital code animating a zombie.
The physical body, even the brain, is fine.
We learned this season that the director has MORAL issues with killing people in the past who have full lives yet to live and is only willing to murder those in the past who are seconds away from dying from historically cited causes.
Murder is wrong.
The directors reservations have nothing to do with Time Travel rules.
Killing enemy Travelers, or executing criminals in their own Traveler ranks, however is fine, because they are criminals, enemy combatants and AI.
Travelers are not "real" people.
They are digital code animating a zombie.
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I don't think they're zombies. The Traveler jumps in BEFORE their schedule deaths and prevents it. From Season 2 stories, it looks like past memories are still there, but consciences is the Travelers, so in effect, the host is "dead", but the body never died.
Okay, that seems to be the consensus, but it's confusing. Why, then, do they only occupy people about to die? I guess maybe because they have nothing more to contribute to history, so taking over their bodies doesn't erase any of their achievements? But it's hard to keep all the rules and logic of it straight.
I wouldn't say zombie because that the body has never died in order to come back to life.
A thought transference is probably the best description.
I was going to say "vegetable" instead of Zombie, but that could be seen as offensive.
Meh.
Meh.
Just recently started watching Travelers. I didn't have high hopes as I'm not a huge fan of Eric McCormick (he was funny in Will & Grace... but that show got tired real fast). But, he's really good. Better than I expected. Although I would've liked a more distinctive transition between the original Grant and the Traveler Grant.
The big surprise was... the partial reprise of the Stargate Universe cast! I counted at least 4 people who were from the series, with 2 of them having regular cast roles. Overall, great acting talent. Lots of surprises for me, as I found a number of twists and turns very difficult to predict. I'm halfway through Season 2... anticipating Season 3 later this year.
The big surprise was... the partial reprise of the Stargate Universe cast! I counted at least 4 people who were from the series, with 2 of them having regular cast roles. Overall, great acting talent. Lots of surprises for me, as I found a number of twists and turns very difficult to predict. I'm halfway through Season 2... anticipating Season 3 later this year.
It's not uncommon for different Vancouver-made shows to draw on the same pool of actors, since they have a smaller talent pool than Hollywood does. Travelers also has a few recurring actors in common with the time-travel drama Continuum, including Ian Tracey, Stephen Lobo, and Jennifer Spence (who was also in SGU).
Yeah, haven't gotten around to Continuum as yet. Fairly modest run with only 4 seasons. Did it generally finish out feeling like it ran it's course, or cut off with much potential in the wings?
The 4 from SGU I noticed: In addition to Jennifer Spence and Patrick Gilmore having decent screen time, Louis Ferreira and Haig Sutherland had some bit part appearances. Spence is a very good actress. Gilmore is good and very likable, but he uses a lot of his same mannerism quirks in his roles. Still, I think both were cast well.
Of course, there are some really difficult things to accept with Travelers. In essence they're wiping out (killing) the minds of people they take over who are destined to die... but in actuality, they're more or less just rescuing the physical bodies and killing the minds. It's kind of morbid when you think about it. They are able to momentarily take over the minds of some people (like those "messenger kids") but I guess long term occupancy demands replacement. It would be a little more "civil" if the people's minds were just stowed away in a dream state so at some future point in time the Traveler leaves the body allowing the person to resume their life.
I understand the paranoia of the 1st Traveler who's in hiding but to brutally kill those people like that... and The Director is apparently OK with it? Doesn't make sense to me. Unless the rogue faction is somehow able to send messages disguised as being from The Director and manipulate the team.
The 4 from SGU I noticed: In addition to Jennifer Spence and Patrick Gilmore having decent screen time, Louis Ferreira and Haig Sutherland had some bit part appearances. Spence is a very good actress. Gilmore is good and very likable, but he uses a lot of his same mannerism quirks in his roles. Still, I think both were cast well.
Of course, there are some really difficult things to accept with Travelers. In essence they're wiping out (killing) the minds of people they take over who are destined to die... but in actuality, they're more or less just rescuing the physical bodies and killing the minds. It's kind of morbid when you think about it. They are able to momentarily take over the minds of some people (like those "messenger kids") but I guess long term occupancy demands replacement. It would be a little more "civil" if the people's minds were just stowed away in a dream state so at some future point in time the Traveler leaves the body allowing the person to resume their life.
I understand the paranoia of the 1st Traveler who's in hiding but to brutally kill those people like that... and The Director is apparently OK with it? Doesn't make sense to me. Unless the rogue faction is somehow able to send messages disguised as being from The Director and manipulate the team.
Continuum tells a complete story. It had to wrap things up fairly quickly in its abbreviated final season, and didn't run nearly as long as the producers hoped, but it absolutely did provide a decisive conclusion.
Four seasons is actually a pretty good run; most TV series get cancelled after 1 or 2 seasons, but we don't remember them as well as the longer ones, so that creates the misconception that longer series are more common. Although Continuum's seasons were fairly short, so it only had 42 episodes in all. But lots of shows these days have short seasons.
