I think this is a great step forward for Trek and wish the new actors every success.
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I just thought about how they might use the new Trill character. A lowly crewmen since we haven't seen him before who doesn't have a symbiont. At some point he is asked to take on a symbiont because the Trill don't have a available host or because the crew needs the info that symbiont has. Kind of what Ezri went through in that she never went through training and had to take on Dax in a emergency. Anyways this would give us a chance to sort of see this character as who he is before becoming a host. Thus this also gives them a chance to maybe avoid any idea that they are trying to downplay his Trans status as more, alien type of stuff.
Jason
Jason
I could see them doing that but I think when you do Trill half of the interest in them as aliens is the symbiot stuff. I am thinking maybe more of a mid- season wait if they want to delay. Especially if they do go the Dax route. Make him becoming a Dax would be a decent mid-season hook to get people to come back from after the break.
Jason
Jason
No mid-season break. It is running for 13 weeks straight.
I keep pointing out to friends in these kind of debates that its not about more gay/BAME/trans actors that we should focus on but more writers, directors and producers from those groups that needs to be encouraged and then the stories, characters and actors will happen as a result
A bit of a non-issue here though, as Michelle Paradise is herself a lesbian and the show makes a point of finding non-white directors, with Jonathan Frakes being one of the few white directors involved with the show.
You're also still looking at an aberration within a system designed to keep queer people out of power unless they are already white and upperclass. One out of hundreds of thousands is still just one--it's not good enough.
You have to start somewhere.
Quark wasn't Trans, but he did have gender reassignment surgery.
It took less than an hour and there was no recovery time.
It took less than an hour and there was no recovery time.
Hopefully the Discovery team will treat the subject matter a bit more seriously than that.
Although there is a lot of narrative potential there. What are the existential implications for trans people In a society where gender reassignment is a simple out-patient procedure that can be done by your family doctor?
Thanks for the reminder. Even in 1998, most of us didn't like the way it was handled.
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I've never seen that episode. It's another one of those "trans women are just men in dresses" or "trans women never look beautiful and like REAL WOMAN!!11oneelven" episodes. Even before hatching I knew "Yeah, no."
Trans women are not serial killers, we are not cis men in dresses, we are not clowns or the butt of jokes, either.
Fuck, I hate thinking about that episode. :|
If its any consolation, which of course it isn't, they were too busy talking about women's rights to reflect that Trans people existed.
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Sounds a lot like what TERFs say. :|
It is indeed the former, and yes, it is about Quark pretending to be a woman to literally trick a heterosexual man. Given the existence of a pretty nasty nickname for transwomen and the ugly stereotype behind it it's the grossest possible plotline.
I don't think they went that far. They just knew that in Star Trek you can be altered to look differently with ease and Quark had to pretend to be a woman to impress the businessman. Quark was still Quark but they did get some hormone jokes in their about him getting all emotional. I mean it's really just a bad episode all around with maybe it's one saving grace being the introduction of Slug-o-Cola. Contains 43% live algae in every bottle. It's two themes are. Drink Slugo-o-cola. The slimiest cola in the galaxy and Drink Slug-o-Cola and keep your teeth that lovely shade of green.
Jason
Jason
It's literally "you need to get a 'sex change' to be a 'real woman'" followed by completely ignoring the harsh torture of gender dysphoria that a cis man like Quark would be going through. All while framing transition as "man tries to deceive other man".
It's all just plain offensive.
It's all just plain offensive.
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