News Trans character announced
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I didn't say they weren't bigoted.
What point are you trying to make with this post?
I just don’t have any desire to see Dax again. The character’s persona was whichever actor’s character had the Trill, thus it had no real definable personality. Now, I would love to see Jadzia or even Ezra again,.
Well yeah, because the symbiont had no inherent personality of its own. It just took on the personalities and memories of its hosts. The whole situation with joran showed that the host could influence the symbiont as much as the symbiont influenced the host.
If more people who are LGBT get into the industry and also become executives at movie studios and production companies, yeah, I can see that happening.
There has to be a paying audience.
Probably not the point, but lizards and amphibians can spontainiously switch genders.
Have you read mote in the eye of God, or heard about the recent seasons of Doctor Who?
If your gender flip flops half a dozen times over the course of a life time, one might develop a preference.
Probably not the point, but lizards and amphibians can spontainiously switch genders.
Have you read mote in the eye of God, or heard about the recent seasons of Doctor Who?
If your gender flip flops half a dozen times over the course of a life time, one might develop a preference.
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Which is similar to how I felt when I read that the trans character was going to be a Trill.
Half slug and half totally okay with gender/orientation as a society, ovcercoming no adversity.
I've just read everything that Shatner posted in those tweets and found nothing transphobic. He hardly even mentioned "trans". All he did is point out that he didn't like to be labeled and that whenever people call him "cis" it's used as an attack. It's sad that many people are being falsely labeled "transphobic" just because they don't like the use of labels and think everyone should be treated equally. And not everyone who disagrees with what is currently politically correct is a "racist", "misogynist", "homophobe" or "transphobe".
In a 13-page thread that talks about trans representation, I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Morgan Kelly, a character first mentioned in the TNG episode Power Play who was revealed to be a transgender woman in the Enterprise novel Live by the Code. As far as I know, she is the first human trans character in Star Trek.
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The wording of his tweets are specifically constructed to ignore the gender of the trans people he argues with while also disregarding the academically and medically accepted term of 'cis' for referring to people to people who are not trans. He doesn't want to be labeled 'cis' because he doesn't like being labeled anything but 'normal'. It's the same reaction any ever has to being called 'cis'.
Shatner apparently doesn't know how to Google or he's just being an obtuse asshole for the sake of it.
Anyway, Morgan Kelly is a character only mentioned in dialogue, never played on-screen by a trans woman and then revived purely for a line in some novel somewhere. Like...yeah, people aren't going to remember or give a shit because trans people aren't so easily placated.
I mean, the article doesn’t say the Character is a trill, just that ‘they lived their life as a trill’
they could be human raised in trill society.
Novels don’t count. They’re not live action or canon.
Novels count because they are officially licensed Star Trek stories. Canon is a dumb concept used by those Star Trek fans who want a small Star Trek universe instead of a big one.
Nobody likes to be labeled by others. That's a commonplace.
We go through life with other people attaching tags to us in order to sort us into their boxes. Something that's true is that almost never is the sorting done on our behalf in what we'd recognize to be our best interests.
Thing about being a white guy is that you probably pick up fewer tags from fewer people than most other folks. In media, in commerce, in all kinds of cultural contexts, "white male" is still often an implicit synonym for "human being." So yeah, it feels weird when a new one comes along and people want you to wear it. Cis is an old word that most people think is a new tag.
One aspect of "privilege" - which in many ways is a problematic term for what it's describing - is not having to really care much about the tags people hang on you. In short, the Shat's getting worked up about nothing.
You can believe that as long as you're not going to be bothered when the owners and creators of the IP throw those "officially licensed stories" away in presenting new ones.
Yeah, it kind of matters that, in percentage terms, almost no one who's ever heard of Star Trek has ever read a Trek novel or comic. There's popular media and then there's MASS MEDIA.
They don’t count in this instance because the majority haven’t read them, they’re not live action nor being portrayed by real trans or non-binary people.
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