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Trailer #2 - Consolidated Discussion

How do you rate the trailer?

  • A+

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  • B

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And it's also puzzling that while the look of these Klingons has changed, the engravings on the props seem to show the older look.
Everything we've seen until now has been a heavily stylized Klingon TV adaptation, like a cross between ancient Egyptian hierogliphs and Powerpuff Girls. Now we're seeing the "real" Trek world.
 
I'm not sure if it's just my poor eyesight but they don't look very different than movie/TNG era Klingons to me. Only their uniforms are changed. Sure, they are bald and beardless but that doesn't require an explanation.
Agreed, I don't really see the fuss. They basically look like Klingons and the changes aren't any greater than the TOS/TMP/TSFS/TNG/TFF/TUC variations we've seen already.

The substantive changes can be put down to fashion and cultural differences. But the Klingons already had totally different costumes in TOS and the later films. The Klingon warriors we see from TMP onwards all have basically the same costumes, presumably because it's a KDF uniform of sorts.

These guys are likely a different group of Klingons with a different allegiance and agenda.
 
Agreed, I don't really see the fuss. They basically look like Klingons and the changes aren't any greater than the TOS/TMP/TSFS/TNG/TFF/TUC variations we've seen already.

The substantive changes can be put down to fashion and cultural differences. But the Klingons already had totally different costumes in TOS and the later films. The Klingon warriors we see from TMP onwards all have basically the same costumes, presumably because it's a KDF uniform of sorts.

These guys are likely a different group of Klingons with a different allegiance and agenda.
This is my feelings as well, but you put it nice and succinctly. The complaints about "Why the changes to Klingons" really don't bother me, simply because there is no way that we have seen every Klingon ever shown. Why? Because Earth is still discovering tribes and understanding traditions.

If DSC is breaking away from the typical Star Trek monolithic culture trope, then I'm all for it.
 
I saw the first 2 trailers.
Good production values. Cinematic dark lighting and lots of action in the trailer.
I think I may be unique in that I limited my spoilers by choosing to view them without audio at all.
I did not get to hear any music or computer narration (if any). Has anyone watched the trailers after their first time without audio to see if they see things differently?

Also I would love to see people start recutting the 2 trailers with different music to turn them into a different genre trailer for fun.
 
I guess the only way we will know for sure if they really are Prime Universe Klingons is if they eat Gagh, drink bloodwine and have,eat or talk about Targs. Kahless and Stov-okor must also be mentioned from time to time.

Jason
 
This is my feelings as well, but you put it nice and succinctly. The complaints about "Why the changes to Klingons" really don't bother me, simply because there is no way that we have seen every Klingon ever shown. Why? Because Earth is still discovering tribes and understanding traditions.

If DSC is breaking away from the typical Star Trek monolithic culture trope, then I'm all for it.
Yeah, seems like for ages Trek fans have complained about aliens in the show always being shallow monocultures - Ferengi are greedy, Romulans are sneaky, Bajorans are pious, Vulcans are logical, Klingons are warriors.

But as soon as we get any variety people complain everything should be exactly the same as it always has been. Must be frustrating for the writers sometimes. Let's give it a go and see what these Klingons are like.
 
I guess the only way we will know for sure if they really are Prime Universe Klingons is if they eat Gagh, drink bloodwine and have,eat or talk about Targs. Kahless and Stov-okor must also be mentioned from time to time.

Jason
Yes, the billions of people who inhabit a planet must all have the exact same cuisine, pets, and religious beliefs.

Kor
 
Yes, the billions of people who inhabit a planet must all have the exact same cuisine, pets, and religious beliefs.

Kor

Well they could have a little more diversity and bring back Klingon War Nog and Rokeg Blood Pie and worship Fek Lar.:)

Jason
 
IMHO, everyone, even youngsters, have seen plenty of Trek. Even if they aren't fans, they've been exposed to it in some shape or form. It's just embedded in pop-culture. It would be this way even if the Kelvin films hadn't existed.

Sorry, but I do not agree with that. They may know who Spock is and "Live Long and Prosper," but when it comes to integral plots that would no doubt tie into the older shows if set post-Voyager, they'd have no idea. It would be set there for a reason -- because it wants to acknowledge what's come before it. If they chose to ignore it entirely, why set it there to begin with other than to just please us?
 
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