Trailer #2 - Consolidated Discussion

[Mudd]

You notice that we haven't heard of a ship yet in this series that uses the old Trek convention of naming after military naval vessels?

 

[Jesse1066]

You notice that we haven't heard of a ship yet in this series that uses the old Trek convention of naming after military naval vessels?

HMS Discovery doesn't count?

 

[Mudd]

Nope.

 

[Jesse1066]

Why is that exactly? It was undoubtedly a naval vessel in a military and even saw combat. The 1789 ship specifically.

 

[Mudd]

Bryan Fuller:

“This ship is called the Discovery for a few reasons. Not the least of which is Stanley Kubrick’s contribution to the Discovery on 2001: A Space Odyssey, NASA’s vessel the Discovery, and also the sense of discovery. [It’s about] what the word ‘discovery’ means to Star Trek audiences who have been promised a future by Gene Roddenberry where we come together as a planet and seek new worlds and new alien races to explore and understand and collaborate with.”

There's no reason to think that the producers are even aware of the existence of the ship you're talking about.

 

[Jesse1066]

There's no reason to think that the producers are even aware of the existence of the ship you're talking about.

I learned of it in elementary school, but I suppose the producers probably never took Washington State history. That's fair enough.

 

[Mr. Nova]

Again with the time anomaly?

Not saying it is, just an observation.

 

[Tomalak]

You notice that we haven't heard of a ship yet in this series that uses the old Trek convention of naming after military naval vessels?

I like that. It was always a bit odd when Starfleet ships were invariably named after twentieth century US naval ships, despite it being a multispecies alliance three centuries forward.

Come to think of it, it's only really TOS that does that. The later series try to be more diverse. I mean Defiant and Voyager aren't inspired by navy ships. A lot of the exceptions are actually references to ships mentioned in TOS as much as they are namesakes for military ships.

Discovery itself is very traditional and follows the Enterprise/Colombia practice of making ships after the space shuttles.

 

[tenmei]

*ahem*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Europa_(1897)

 

[starmike]

I'm trying to see where the military vessel naming matters.

 

[tenmei]

I don't think anyone is saying it does - and it would be nice to move away from the precedent shown, and more towards ships with non-Earth names, more like Gorkon, Sarek and T'Kumbra.

Maybe we could see a USS T'Pol in Discovery - or a medical ship called the Phlox.

 

[Mach5]

Maybe we could see a USS T'Pol in Discovery - or a medical ship called the Phlox.

No.

No.

No.

 

[Tomalak]

And a livestock transport called USS Porthos.

 

[cultcross]

Captain, there's another ship coming in. it's the USS Favorite Character!

 

[CorporalClegg]

Robau or forget it.

 

[Mach5]

- Ensign, purge those Tucker manifolds, the Mayweather pitch control isn't getting enough juice from the O'Brien subgenerators. And make sure you keep the crypto-phasic resonance under 17 on the Sato scale, we wouldn't want the Chekov conduits to overload.

 

[BillJ]

Ok, looking at the scene again, yes, Kirk mentioned him. But it was used for trivia.

Don't hurt yourself moving those goal posts!

And the mention from "What are Little Girls..." predates "Operation: Annihilate".

 

[Jedi_Master]

I thought the trailer was - visually - a jumbled mess, but it still was exciting and I am sold on the show. It should be interesting to see what they are able to accomplish.

 

[Spider]

Go and watch a trailer for a movie or TV show that you are extremely familiar with (having already seen the finished movie or show a few times). The trailer is full of cut scenes that mostly have nothing to do with each other, but are seemingly visually linked in the trailer.

We can't judge the content of a show or movie from a trailer in most circumstances! I liked both the trailers, as far as the visuals go, but those trailers give me no clue whatsoever on whether or not I'll like the show when I see it.

 

[starmike]

Don't hurt yourself moving those goal posts!

And the mention from "What are Little Girls..." predates "Operation: Annihilate".

Not moving the goalposts. There are plenty of people in my life that don't know if I have siblings or not.