TP: Seize the Fire by Michael A. Martin Review Thread (Spoilers!)
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Hey Ron,
You get that pic from me?
I'm sorry to say that I agree with most of the criticism.
I think the book had some wonderful ideas and concepts, but didn't utilize them to their fullest potential (at least IMO).
I wasn't expecting the ecosculptor to remain intact for the UFP to use, as that would undermine the current (and still new) post-Destiny status quo, but I felt that we could have used more drama and insight into the "character" of the ecosculptor (indeed, setting up a classic Trek dilemma regarding using a sentient AI as a tool).
All in all, I have to say that the series so far has left me a bit underwhelmed..
Hey Ron,
You get that pic from me?
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Well, being totally honest though, aside from David Mack, I haven't been especially impressed with ANY author's output since Marco was laid off. And even Zero Sum Game was pretty lame.
I think we might be missing a bigger picture thing here.
Well, being totally honest though, aside from David Mack, I haven't been especially impressed with ANY author's output since Marco was laid off. And even Zero Sum Game was pretty lame.
I think we might be missing a bigger picture thing here.
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You kidding? I thought you got it from me
just saw it after seeng Wall-E a while back and loved it
You kidding? I thought you got it from me
just saw it after seeng Wall-E a while back and loved it
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I agree with your overall point, i.e. Marco's final Trek novels (the post-Destiny VOY duology IIRC) have been the last truly amazing novels in the last couple of years (excluding Mack's Sorrows of Empires and the Vanguard series).
It's not that there weren't any good novels, but not anything special, at least IMO.
As for your last point, are you referring to the Trek universe or real-world editorial and publishing issues?
I agree with your overall point, i.e. Marco's final Trek novels (the post-Destiny VOY duology IIRC) have been the last truly amazing novels in the last couple of years (excluding Mack's Sorrows of Empires and the Vanguard series).
It's not that there weren't any good novels, but not anything special, at least IMO.
As for your last point, are you referring to the Trek universe or real-world editorial and publishing issues?
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I can say that the eBook quality has gone downhill since Marco left. We have eBpooks with broken fonts, words with dashes in them that do not belong and * * * as section separators that are only there for the print version because the section ends near the end of the page. So really, bring back Marco so the quality of the eBooks can be better again.
I can say that the eBook quality has gone downhill since Marco left. We have eBpooks with broken fonts, words with dashes in them that do not belong and * * * as section separators that are only there for the print version because the section ends near the end of the page. So really, bring back Marco so the quality of the eBooks can be better again.
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I was really looking forward to this book since I've enjoyed the series so far. Unfortunately, I was very disappointed this this book. Hopefully Rough Beasts of the Empire will be better.
I was really looking forward to this book since I've enjoyed the series so far. Unfortunately, I was very disappointed this this book. Hopefully Rough Beasts of the Empire will be better.
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Some of the writers, sure, but certainly not all of them.
Some of the writers, sure, but certainly not all of them.
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I think pretty much all of the material over the last couple of years has been average to mediocre. I'd have no problem with them getting in entirely new teams.
I think pretty much all of the material over the last couple of years has been average to mediocre. I'd have no problem with them getting in entirely new teams.
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Sorry that wasn't clearer; I just meant that people were complaining about the authors, and it seemed to me like it might be the editorial leadership as a whole rather than the authors individually.
I've read a little over 200 Trek books in the past couple years (what can I say? When I obsess I obsess...) and just for fun I averaged all the ones Marco edited and all the ones he didn't, and his books averaged about 20% better ratings from me. And that's with me reading ALL of his editorial output, and only reading the best of everyone else's.
Don't get me wrong, there were PLENTY of GREAT books without him and I'm sure there will continue to be in the future. I'm hugely looking forward to most of the books coming this year, I think a lot of them have a ton of potential. But what's the phrase, a rising tide lifts all ships? Marco was a hell of a rising tide.
Sorry that wasn't clearer; I just meant that people were complaining about the authors, and it seemed to me like it might be the editorial leadership as a whole rather than the authors individually.
I've read a little over 200 Trek books in the past couple years (what can I say? When I obsess I obsess...) and just for fun I averaged all the ones Marco edited and all the ones he didn't, and his books averaged about 20% better ratings from me. And that's with me reading ALL of his editorial output, and only reading the best of everyone else's.
Don't get me wrong, there were PLENTY of GREAT books without him and I'm sure there will continue to be in the future. I'm hugely looking forward to most of the books coming this year, I think a lot of them have a ton of potential. But what's the phrase, a rising tide lifts all ships? Marco was a hell of a rising tide.
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Nope. I actually got it from Flikie to use as my Facebook pic sometimes.
You kidding? I thought you got it from me
just saw it after seeng Wall-E a while back and loved it
Nope. I actually got it from Flikie to use as my Facebook pic sometimes.
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Got my copy today. Last one at the Barnes & Noble I was at.
So far from reading the couple paragraphs of prologue and the first chapter: Snoozers!!! 
Got my copy today. Last one at the Barnes & Noble I was at.
So far from reading the couple paragraphs of prologue and the first chapter: Snoozers!!!
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I read the first 4 chapters. I think it's one of those books that just takes time to get into.
Got my copy today. Last one at the Barnes & Noble I was at.
I read the first 4 chapters. I think it's one of those books that just takes time to get into.
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I dont normally post in review threads before I finish the book, but I have had it at least a week now and am still miles off finishing it, and there is a decent chance I will never get around to finishing it either.
It is slow, dull and not particularly interesting. the stuff about the Gorn might be interesting in the hands of a different writer, but so far I dont find it to be so in this book.
I was disappointed with Zero Sum Game as I expected greatness when it was only good, this book is bordering on poor for me.
The last Star Trek book I read that made me feel like this and took so long for me to finish was Full Circle, another book I didnt like.
Edited to add: Also, I thought Trill was called... Trill? Where did Trillius Prime come from?
I dont normally post in review threads before I finish the book, but I have had it at least a week now and am still miles off finishing it, and there is a decent chance I will never get around to finishing it either.
It is slow, dull and not particularly interesting. the stuff about the Gorn might be interesting in the hands of a different writer, but so far I dont find it to be so in this book.
I was disappointed with Zero Sum Game as I expected greatness when it was only good, this book is bordering on poor for me.
The last Star Trek book I read that made me feel like this and took so long for me to finish was Full Circle, another book I didnt like.
Edited to add: Also, I thought Trill was called... Trill? Where did Trillius Prime come from?
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Well crap, I've been looking forward to reading the Typhon Pact series, and now come to find out we're not getting installments for two of the Pact members (Kinshaya & Tzenkethi) and even though I'm enjoying Zero Sum Game thus far, apparently Seize The Fire is going to be a bit of a slow burn...
Crap.
I miss Marco & Margaret. (No Offense to Jaime)
Well crap, I've been looking forward to reading the Typhon Pact series, and now come to find out we're not getting installments for two of the Pact members (Kinshaya & Tzenkethi) and even though I'm enjoying Zero Sum Game thus far, apparently Seize The Fire is going to be a bit of a slow burn...
Crap.
I miss Marco & Margaret. (No Offense to Jaime)
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