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Spoilers TOS: The Captain's Oath by Christopher L. Bennett Review Thread

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Oh and aren't Kirk and Tracey technically the same rank? I know that Tracey is the senior Captain and Kirk would be expected to defer to him. I'm not too sure about the 'Sir' part though. Tracey treated him like a much lower rank and Kirk seemed too subserviant.

Well, Tracey was the captain in command of the task force, so he was the higher authority in that case.
 
Scored a copy today. Funny story, it wasn't there last time so this time I asked. The manager checked the system, it showed in store, so she says "I'll check the SF section to see if they just filed under the author's name." I told here I'd thought of that. So she wanders off and comes back in a bit. Seems it was placed with the Star Wars titles. (Sacrilege.) I've got about a hundred pages left on "Altered Carbon" then, well I also bought Gregory Benford's "Rewrite" and will be taking them in alphabetical order (sorry, Christopher).
 
I've got about a hundred pages left on "Altered Carbon" then, well I also bought Gregory Benford's "Rewrite" and will be taking them in alphabetical order (sorry, Christopher).

I think that standard library practice would be to order books alphabetically by their individual titles rather than the series title, so Captain's Oath, The would come second, and it's Mr. Benford you should be apologizing to.
 
Actually I was going by author's name and Benford beats Bennett barely, buddy.

I agree.

However, I would note that series written by multiple different authors will often be grouped by series name instead mostly sci-fi, Star Trek, Star Wars being the most consistent examples however Doctor Who/Torchwood is another one I've seen before.
 
Waterstones in the UK groups the franchises together, regardless on the author. Makes finding books easier.
 
Scored a copy today. Funny story, it wasn't there last time so this time I asked. The manager checked the system, it showed in store, so she says "I'll check the SF section to see if they just filed under the author's name." I told here I'd thought of that. So she wanders off and comes back in a bit. Seems it was placed with the Star Wars titles. (Sacrilege.) I've got about a hundred pages left on "Altered Carbon" then, well I also bought Gregory Benford's "Rewrite" and will be taking them in alphabetical order (sorry, Christopher).

When I went to the bookstore on the day of release, there was no sign of it in what I thought would be some of the obvious places, too. I asked if they had any copies in store, and their computer showed that they had three, but not in the back. One of the ladies helped me try and chase it down, but nothing doing initially. Then she asked if I wanted to just place an order for new ones coming in, or check at another store.

I blinked for a moment. Here I was, a fan (short for fanatic), a ready-made sale, come to collect on day one. I laughed ruefully and said no, I would look everywhere I could to find it. Everywhere. If they had copies, somewhere, why would I want to leave and go somewhere else, or come back a week later. All very amiably and friendly, but with high energy. I was frantic yet calm. Calmly on the warpath.

A few minutes later she found them. Someone had stocked this brand new science fiction/fantasy category Star Trek tie-in novel in the YA section, or somewhere close by. She gave me the three copies, and happy as a clam I chose the one I liked best. She took the remaining two to be stocked in there proper place, where the other ST fans could find it more easily.

Now that I've finished reading The Shining, I need a break of about a day or so, after which I'm happily looking forward to settling in with The Captain's Oath. Ironically, when I visited the bookstore again today, they had a respectable stack of them...in the right place this time, where they will be easy to find.
 
Here I was, a fan (short for fanatic)

I've never bought that etymology. David Gerrold once proposed (I think in The World of Star Trek) that it was short for "fancier," as in someone who fancies (likes) a thing. That makes more sense to me as a derivation, because when we abbreviate words, we tend to keep the stressed syllable (as in "fridge" for "refrigerator"). It also seems a more natural and straightforward derivation, whereas the "fan is short for fanatic" version sounds like a myth invented by people who want to denigrate fandom.
 
Well, in a library organized by LC number, it would be LC number first, then author's name, then title. I've always found it a bit of an annoyance that Dewey Decimal is (1) at the mercy of the individual librarian, and (2) blind to popular fiction (which would be organized entirely at the librarian's discretion, with or without a rough categorization by genre). I was introduced to LC as a University student, and if I were ever to give some huge donation to a local public library, it would be contingent upon their converting to LC, and remaining in LC in perpetuity.

And Mr. Bennett, I completely agree with you and Mr. Gerrold on "fancier." Be afraid. Be very afraid.
 
Surprisingly enough, not that long ago I saw a David Gerrold Facebook post where he used the "fanatic" definition. So he seems to have changed his mind over the past 45 or so years, but I still think he was right the first time.
 
I've never bought that etymology. David Gerrold once proposed (I think in The World of Star Trek) that it was short for "fancier," as in someone who fancies (likes) a thing. That makes more sense to me as a derivation, because when we abbreviate words, we tend to keep the stressed syllable (as in "fridge" for "refrigerator"). It also seems a more natural and straightforward derivation, whereas the "fan is short for fanatic" version sounds like a myth invented by people who want to denigrate fandom.

I never thought about the origin of the word until is was implied in an early episode of the newer Doctor Who show. It seemed to make sense, and I never thought there was an alternative explanation. I only use it here to be self-deprecating, thank you for drawing my attention to the possibility of an alternative origin for the word.
 
Hmm. The Oxford English Dictionary (at least the online edition, and I don't have even the microprint edition handy) exclusively refers to fanatic, but the Online Etymology Dictionary (I just noticed: it's another "OED"), while leaning towards fanatic, also admits "the fancy." And I also think Gerrold was right the first time (which is unusual, for me to disagree with the OED; be afraid, be very afraid).
 
Well, I'm about 140 pages into it and Christopher has touched on a matter that has long struck me as the "great improbability" of the Trekverse. Specifically, the existence of so many civilizations that are in rough technological parity. I obviously don't know at this point if he returns to this question, but it was good to see it raised.
 
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