Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by Kill Anna, Jun 11, 2021.
Just drop it, please. Best not to take any chances. I had no plans to revisit Vekal anyway.
Ok. You'd know better than I. I'd just hate for some dopey post of mine to be the reason you didn't do something.
There was a story about the guy who wrote the animated TROUBLE WITH TRIBBLES sequel who supposedly got sued by the parents of a child who claimed that he'd stolen their child's idea told to him during a tour.
I apologize if if this has been asked and answered but I'm just about to start the audiobook. It says the events take place 6 years after what happened with VGER and 6 years prior to the events in Wrath of Khan. I feel like something is off there.
This matches the Okuda chronology, which separates TMP and TWOK by a dozen or so years.
TMP was 3-4 years after Space Seed, and TWOK was 15 years after Space Seed. So, there were a dozen years between TMP and TWOK.
No, that's right. The 5-year mission ended in 2270 per Voyager: "Q2," so TMP, which is at least two and a half years later, falls in 2273. And the Okuda Chronology puts TWOK in 2285, which is inexplicably 18 years after "Space Seed," but it's the accepted date now, like it or not. So 2279 is pretty much halfway between them.
Wow. I had no idea they set TMP so soon after the the events in TOS. Thanks.
18 years after Space Seed would make it far more likely that Joachim is Khan's son and not his friend. Which is my favorite interpretation.
They said explicitly in the movie that Kirk had been Chief of Starfleet Operations for two and a half years. Kirk also referred to "my five years out there," implying that his CSO tenure began right after the 5-year mission. (Although that line ignores the decade or so he spent serving on starships between the Academy and the 5YM.)
I believe in Greg Cox' novel To Reign in Hell listed him as Joaquin's son. And Joaquin was Khan's right hand man so he would be almost like a son. IIRC Khan took on that role after Joaquin died.
Quite correct. And I've always regarded that as one of GC's most under-recognized contributions to the story.
Interestingly, the 2010 IDW comic-series Khan: Ruling in Hell (which ended up using certain aspects of Greg Cox's novel-trilogy while changing other things to tell its own version of the story, but also crediting Greg on the inner copyright-indicia) had Joaquin and Joachim being one and the same, retconning Judson Scott's The Wrath of Khan-character into the '60s TV-character:
Can't say I care for that, mainly because they look nothing alike and he even looks younger in Twok.
It also has more punch that Khan has killed his only flesh and blood in a act of revenge that he had numerous chances to run away from.
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