Nardpuncher
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I never would 've thought in a 1000 years that mesh trucker hats would become fashionable...and for so long! Haven't they been in for 6 or 7 years now?
TOS and Gen Y fashion
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Well, this thread drifted off topic faster than you can say "You bet your sweet bippy!" So, the $64,000 question: Just how did Leslie Parrish get that top to stay up?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/birdofthegalaxy/3639751951/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/birdofthegalaxy/3639751951/
Am I imagining it, or did I read somewhere that double-sided tape was used? If true, it could have been painful for her at the end of each shooting day.
Doug
^ It was a standard accessory for Theiss's designs.
Indeed, it's so commonly used for that purpose that it's also known as "fashion tape." Or "boob tape."
I miss '60s and '70s colors. Everything is so dull and bland these days.Pretty much, yeah. Fortunately, '60s colors haven't quite made a comeback.
Nona was much prettier than Cher.
Gen X broke up and Bily Idol went solo.
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Lord Garth
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Generation Xers are slowly crossing over into their 40s, that's what happened.
Baby Boomers = Born 1946-1964
Generation X = Born 1965-1977
Generation Y = Born 1978-1994
I don't really agree with the dividing points but it seems to me like these have become more or less settled.
It's all demographics, and none of the definitions are ever stable, but it all goes something like this
GENERATION...............BORN...............GRADUATED HIGH SCHOOL
Baby Boomers.............1946-64.............1964-82
X ..............................1965-late 70's....1983-late 90's
Y ..............................1980-1990s? ......1998-
Baby Boomers: who TOS was aimed squarely at. They grew up Paul Anka, Elvis, James Brown, Diana Ross and the Supremes, the Carpenters, the Doors and the Beatles, to name a few.
Generation X: who TNG was aimed squarely at, as well as all the John Hughes films and STARGATE SG-1. They grew up listening to Michael Jackson, U2, Run-DMC, Def Leppard, Bon Jovi, Mr. Mister and Van Halen, to name a few.
Generation Y: who the new STAR TREK movie is aimed squarely at, as well as Ron Moore's GALACTICA and STARGATE UNIVERSE. They grew up listening to Mariah Carey, Madonna, Ludacris, Eminem, Avril Lavigne, Britney Spears and "Xtina" Aguilera. For them, porn-on-video was always readily available from the time they were old enough to know what it was.
Stargate SG-1? Didn't that start about 4 years ago?
And I for one remember sitting in my dorm room with a bunch of friends watching the pilot of TNG. When it ended we all just sort of looked at each other in quiet diappointment.
Dude, STARGATE SG-1 made its debut in 1997.
And just because TNG was targeted at Gen X doesn't mean everyone in it liked it.
Close enough. Nothing has changed much since then.
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Lord Garth
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9/11, two wars, and economic collapse. That's difference. Just not good difference. Plus I couldn't check the Internet from my cellphone, not that I even had a cellphone in 1997.
I wouldn't lump Stargate: SG-1 in with the same time frame as TNG though.
If BSG were done in the '90s it would've been different from the way it was done in the 2000s update. In the '90s, they wouldn't have toned down the shipboard tech (outside of faster-than-light travel) to 20th Century levels, there would be aliens, and it would've more closely resembled the '70s version except "hipper", which would've likely fallen flat on its face.
I wouldn't lump Stargate: SG-1 in with the same time frame as TNG though.
If BSG were done in the '90s it would've been different from the way it was done in the 2000s update. In the '90s, they wouldn't have toned down the shipboard tech (outside of faster-than-light travel) to 20th Century levels, there would be aliens, and it would've more closely resembled the '70s version except "hipper", which would've likely fallen flat on its face.
If you say so. Must be an age thing. I see a world of difference between the 1980s and the 70s. To me, everything has looked (and sounded) the same since the early 90s. To me, the movies are just explodier and glossier, and the music is just whinier and shallower.
I thought it did. I thought it lasted about a year, but your comment makes clear I'm wrong about that.
Sorry. I'm a creature of my time.
Ron Moore's BSG re-imagination was a perfect example of cable TV doing "a successful failure", in that it was ambitious and memorable and maybe even innovative, but after four years on the air it failed to attract the big audience that was anticipated.
As for everything being the same since the early '90's, not sure what to make of that. I can see your point about the action in movies and the music to a certain degree, but don't count the likes of Sheryl Crow out.
The one pervasive trend affecting attitudes and fashion from the mid-80's forward has been the mass-marketing of hardcore pornography. You don't see the likes of Carey, Aguilera and Spears strutting around most of the time in their undies for nothing. How ironic that so many recent fashion trends seem to look like ripoffs of Thiess' revealing costumes from TOS... the point of this thread...
As for everything being the same since the early '90's, not sure what to make of that. I can see your point about the action in movies and the music to a certain degree, but don't count the likes of Sheryl Crow out.
The one pervasive trend affecting attitudes and fashion from the mid-80's forward has been the mass-marketing of hardcore pornography. You don't see the likes of Carey, Aguilera and Spears strutting around most of the time in their undies for nothing. How ironic that so many recent fashion trends seem to look like ripoffs of Thiess' revealing costumes from TOS... the point of this thread...
Theiss didn't operate in a vacuum, in some cases he was responding to what he saw happening around him. Mini skirts, hip huggers and body paint were being worn by actresses and "civilians" he saw every day on the street and at the studio. If any thing it shows that fashion is cyclical. And no-doubt some of these designers and trend setters have never seen Star Trek or heard of Mr. Theiss.
Is wearing skimpy clothing "hardcore pornography" now?
OH MY GOD!!!! IS THAT A NAKED HIP!!!!!!!!
UNDERWEAR!!!!!! SOMEONE CALL THE VICE SQUAD!!!!!!
Is wearing skimpy clothing "hardcore pornography" now?
OH MY GOD!!!! IS THAT A NAKED HIP!!!!!!!!
UNDERWEAR!!!!!! SOMEONE CALL THE VICE SQUAD!!!!!!
It's remarkable seeing some of the things they got away with pre-code.
It's kind of weird. We're more repressed now than we were then.
It's kind of weird. We're more repressed now than we were then.
Yeah, pagers were the big thing. We all thought we were so cool. "Hey, I got a page! I need to... go find a pay phone."
It probably would have been closer to SAAB or B5.
Christ, now I miss the '90s.
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