TORCHWOOD: Miracle Day episode two "Rendition" disscussions & comments
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I haven't written it off as a disaster as a whole (yet) but I still think they could've done better to this point. A mystery can be good prior to the final chapter.
I haven't written it off as a disaster as a whole (yet) but I still think they could've done better to this point. A mystery can be good prior to the final chapter.
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It wasn't that good. In the end I had to accelerate it just to get to the end. I could have done without the Wax Face Captain Jack Drama. The appeal did come in that asian girl from Dollhouse... playing an evil person.
There were a whole lot of cliches in that episode.
It wasn't that good. In the end I had to accelerate it just to get to the end. I could have done without the Wax Face Captain Jack Drama. The appeal did come in that asian girl from Dollhouse... playing an evil person.
There were a whole lot of cliches in that episode.
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"Rex, you gotta work on these escape plans!"
"Rex, you gotta work on these escape plans!"
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Good
...just 'cause I think "aargh! what the hell?!?" is too harsh a grade.
The medical stuff was good. The Oswald stuff not so much. And the main story of Torchwood on a plane sucked out loud. The only redeemin' thing about that part was Sierra from Dollhouse...
I really hope next week's episode is better.
Good
...just 'cause I think "aargh! what the hell?!?" is too harsh a grade.
The medical stuff was good. The Oswald stuff not so much. And the main story of Torchwood on a plane sucked out loud. The only redeemin' thing about that part was Sierra from Dollhouse...
I really hope next week's episode is better.
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I felt let down that Gwen and Sierra didn't have 5 minutes of Kung Fu vs. Pub brawling up and down the isles instead of almost everything else that did happen on that flight.
I felt let down that Gwen and Sierra didn't have 5 minutes of Kung Fu vs. Pub brawling up and down the isles instead of almost everything else that did happen on that flight.
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I enjoyed it, even if it was just Torchwood stuck on a plane for an episode. Everyone mocking Dan the not gay flight attendant was fun. Although, near the beginning we hear Gwen going on about everyone lives a normal life until they meet Jack, than things turn upside down. Strange, I thought that was how people talked about the Doctor?
So why did Rex go to Heathrow airport to head back to the States? There must be airports somewhere in Wales, at the very least Heathrow isn't the only airport in the UK. It isn't even the only airport in London. There had to have been something closer to Cardiff that he could have taken.
Also, I noticed Rhys was left behind. Since he's part of the main cast (in the opening credits at that) I assume there's going to be a continuing storyline in Wales or is he eventually going to be joining everyone in America?
To be honest, I can't take Wayne Knight seriously as a villain. Everytime, I see him, I see Newman. It certainly didn't help that they basically had him being completely Newman-esque, sitting in his office, grinning evilly as he looked over Esther's service record, then scowling as his phone rang pulling him back to actual work. Seriously, I was expecting to hear Seinfeld music and maybe even see Kramer slide into the room.
Oswald's storyline didn't really appeal to me. Partly because, I knew from spoilers that he was going to become something of a media figure, and all this was was showing him become just that. I did enjoy his rant about how he could taste the piss in his food when he was in prison. Seeing him break down and cry over his crime was rather confusing. Last week he was completely remorseless to the point of being a total bastard. While I suppose it is possible he may have always had some regret and just kept it buried, it seems too quick to see this kind of change in him.
The medical conference was kind of interesting, mainly the discussions of the effect and consequences immortality has. I feel I missed something however, but where did that amputated arm they were examining come from?
Evil CIA lady getting her head twisted around was kind of fun, though I am kind of surprised that when the gang see her in front of the car, they stop, and then drive around her. I would have thought that since no one liked her, and that she can't die that would have just run over her for the hell of it. It could have made for one of those nice "got what was coming to you" moments.
On a final note, I noticed Tom Price (PC Andy) was listed in the guest credits. Where was he? Mixed in among all the cops at the beginning, or is this a case of he was in a scene that's in the other version of the episode?
So, while it may not have been as pure awesome as last week, I still enjoyed it quite a bit, and once again it was a show I was actually disappointed to see end. Honestly, I can't remember the last time I enjoyed a show that much.
I enjoyed it, even if it was just Torchwood stuck on a plane for an episode. Everyone mocking Dan the not gay flight attendant was fun. Although, near the beginning we hear Gwen going on about everyone lives a normal life until they meet Jack, than things turn upside down. Strange, I thought that was how people talked about the Doctor?
So why did Rex go to Heathrow airport to head back to the States? There must be airports somewhere in Wales, at the very least Heathrow isn't the only airport in the UK. It isn't even the only airport in London. There had to have been something closer to Cardiff that he could have taken.
Also, I noticed Rhys was left behind. Since he's part of the main cast (in the opening credits at that) I assume there's going to be a continuing storyline in Wales or is he eventually going to be joining everyone in America?
To be honest, I can't take Wayne Knight seriously as a villain. Everytime, I see him, I see Newman. It certainly didn't help that they basically had him being completely Newman-esque, sitting in his office, grinning evilly as he looked over Esther's service record, then scowling as his phone rang pulling him back to actual work. Seriously, I was expecting to hear Seinfeld music and maybe even see Kramer slide into the room.
Oswald's storyline didn't really appeal to me. Partly because, I knew from spoilers that he was going to become something of a media figure, and all this was was showing him become just that. I did enjoy his rant about how he could taste the piss in his food when he was in prison. Seeing him break down and cry over his crime was rather confusing. Last week he was completely remorseless to the point of being a total bastard. While I suppose it is possible he may have always had some regret and just kept it buried, it seems too quick to see this kind of change in him.
The medical conference was kind of interesting, mainly the discussions of the effect and consequences immortality has. I feel I missed something however, but where did that amputated arm they were examining come from?
Evil CIA lady getting her head twisted around was kind of fun, though I am kind of surprised that when the gang see her in front of the car, they stop, and then drive around her. I would have thought that since no one liked her, and that she can't die that would have just run over her for the hell of it. It could have made for one of those nice "got what was coming to you" moments.
On a final note, I noticed Tom Price (PC Andy) was listed in the guest credits. Where was he? Mixed in among all the cops at the beginning, or is this a case of he was in a scene that's in the other version of the episode?
So, while it may not have been as pure awesome as last week, I still enjoyed it quite a bit, and once again it was a show I was actually disappointed to see end. Honestly, I can't remember the last time I enjoyed a show that much.
Re: TORCHWOOD: Miracle Day episode two "Rendition" disscussions & comm
I don't normally vote in the polls. I also haven't finished watching the episode; I was bored with it and shut it off after twenty minutes. *shrug*
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I gave Rendition a 'Good' rating - some good ideas, some nice bits, but some cringeworthy ones as well. Who else thought 'Newman!' when Wayne Knight appeared on-screen? Not a big fan of his anyway, and he had all the personality of wallpaper paste in this ep. And Gwen's squealing as they dug through the plane's guts...
I loved the bits with the 'not gay' flight attendant, and Esther's escape from the CIA was pretty smooth. I'm just waiting for the story to really come together, so we can see what's really going on.
I gave Rendition a 'Good' rating - some good ideas, some nice bits, but some cringeworthy ones as well. Who else thought 'Newman!' when Wayne Knight appeared on-screen? Not a big fan of his anyway, and he had all the personality of wallpaper paste in this ep. And Gwen's squealing as they dug through the plane's guts...
I loved the bits with the 'not gay' flight attendant, and Esther's escape from the CIA was pretty smooth. I'm just waiting for the story to really come together, so we can see what's really going on.
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Ya must have totally missed the bit in the elevator where the P/R rep called him out for his performance, or the seconds before that when ya can almost see a grin on his face as he turned away from the PA after she apologized to him.
Its an act to get sympathy for himself.
Ya must have totally missed the bit in the elevator where the P/R rep called him out for his performance, or the seconds before that when ya can almost see a grin on his face as he turned away from the PA after she apologized to him.
Its an act to get sympathy for himself.
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I didn't vote in the poll because there's not a middle ground between "good" and "argh what the hell"; I thought it was average. I enjoyed it mostly, but there wasn't really any forward plot movement-- and what there was had nothing to do with Torchwood.
I didn't vote in the poll because there's not a middle ground between "good" and "argh what the hell"; I thought it was average. I enjoyed it mostly, but there wasn't really any forward plot movement-- and what there was had nothing to do with Torchwood.
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Yeah. What the hell's up with that?
If you're going to make a poll, give it more than ten seconds of thought and make it matter.
Great
Good
Average
Fair
Poor
That is sort of standard -- however you want to word it. But going from good to WTF gives no margin for passable or acceptable but not noteworthy.
Yeah. What the hell's up with that?
If you're going to make a poll, give it more than ten seconds of thought and make it matter.
Great
Good
Average
Fair
Poor
That is sort of standard -- however you want to word it. But going from good to WTF gives no margin for passable or acceptable but not noteworthy.
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That's actually my favorite part of the whole episode, that and the "I'm not gay" bit. I figured out he was playing everyone from the minute the news interview began. Like he said, he's going to live forever, and he has to live forever with what he did. By generating sympathy for himself, he's just ensuring that he will have some chance for a life in the future and not just be the most hated man in the country, which he would've been without the sorrowful breakdown.
I mean, just check out the reaction of the girl with the headsets. At first, she just wanted him to disappear forever, but then after the interview she was crying for him. That's exactly the kind of reaction he's going for and it worked well. By the end of the series he's liable to be the most popular man on the planet and everyone, assuming he does die when/if everything goes back to normal, will probably send flowers to his funeral.
That's actually my favorite part of the whole episode, that and the "I'm not gay" bit. I figured out he was playing everyone from the minute the news interview began. Like he said, he's going to live forever, and he has to live forever with what he did. By generating sympathy for himself, he's just ensuring that he will have some chance for a life in the future and not just be the most hated man in the country, which he would've been without the sorrowful breakdown.
I mean, just check out the reaction of the girl with the headsets. At first, she just wanted him to disappear forever, but then after the interview she was crying for him. That's exactly the kind of reaction he's going for and it worked well. By the end of the series he's liable to be the most popular man on the planet and everyone, assuming he does die when/if everything goes back to normal, will probably send flowers to his funeral.
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Blasphemy. While I'm engaged, Miracle Day is not (as of yet) nearly as gripping as Children of Earth was from the very start.
Blasphemy. While I'm engaged, Miracle Day is not (as of yet) nearly as gripping as Children of Earth was from the very start.
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Children of Earth had 5 eps to get everything thing so they probably crammed more into each episode.
Children of Earth had 5 eps to get everything thing so they probably crammed more into each episode.
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For me though, it wasn't just about things crammed in... The stakes were more immediate (rather than, in a few months the world will fall apart) and the aliens were scary (Newman is nefarious, but not scary.)
Still, I'm engaged and interested, and it's WAY better that a lot of other things.
For me though, it wasn't just about things crammed in... The stakes were more immediate (rather than, in a few months the world will fall apart) and the aliens were scary (Newman is nefarious, but not scary.)
Still, I'm engaged and interested, and it's WAY better that a lot of other things.
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I dunno, so far most characters either act like complete morons or in a very clichéd manner... or both. In addition with all the jokes, this episode seemed like they tried to spoof 24 more than anything else.
It's entertaining, but I still hope that it will get better.
I dunno, so far most characters either act like complete morons or in a very clichéd manner... or both. In addition with all the jokes, this episode seemed like they tried to spoof 24 more than anything else.
It's entertaining, but I still hope that it will get better.
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Thing is, even that seems inconsistent with what we saw last week. To me it seemed his attitude was "I can't die, you all have to put up with me. Legal trickery allows me to walk free. Deal with it." And now he's crying on national TV to get sympathy? I suppose he could see it as an easy way to put food on the table (that hasn't been pissed on) but I don't really buy it either way.
On a similar note, could they not afford to pay the guy playing Oswald's police escort/bodyguard? The guy never talks. Even when asked what time it is, he just holds up his arm and Oswald reads the watch.
Thing is, even that seems inconsistent with what we saw last week. To me it seemed his attitude was "I can't die, you all have to put up with me. Legal trickery allows me to walk free. Deal with it." And now he's crying on national TV to get sympathy? I suppose he could see it as an easy way to put food on the table (that hasn't been pissed on) but I don't really buy it either way.
On a similar note, could they not afford to pay the guy playing Oswald's police escort/bodyguard? The guy never talks. Even when asked what time it is, he just holds up his arm and Oswald reads the watch.
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