Torchwood:MD 4x08-End of the Road

[wamdue]

so having finally seen the episode , there is still all the same old problems the series has, but it is good to see Danes again, and finally move the plot alot more onto the Families.

Got to love the whole "Caterogy Zero", "have earnt their place in the oven" humanity at it worse, but yet believable, look at how the Daily Mail & the Tories are with people on benefits.

Not sure when the stuff about the callopse of the EU was filmed, but it seems pretty realistic, I know I mentioned a forthcoming pension crisis, in one of my early reviews.

Next week looks a bit of an Anne Frank rip-off, but its interesting that there hasnt been alot of plot, but we continue not to see much of life on Earth generally.

More to the point, how are we meant to believe that when the Doctors visits Earth, this stuff has happened, this really does change everything, I dont see how the Earth will ever be the same again, even if they manage to undo the Miracle, for example if as hinted that the concept of money was at risk of callopse, people wont just go back to it, and even if they did society will need to totally rebuild.

 

[I am not Spock]

Yeah, there doesn't seem to be a lot of continuity between the two shows anymore. When the Doc visits Earth, there's no Miracle Day going on. Well, he hasn't actually been to present day Earth this season yet.

 

[Lonemagpie]

Yeah, there doesn't seem to be a lot of continuity between the two shows anymore. When the Doc visits Earth, there's no Miracle Day going on. Well, he hasn't actually been to present day Earth this season yet.

Yes he has- in the opening scene of last week's episode. "You've had all summer..."

 

[The Wormhole]

Which I pointed out in the discussion thread for Let's Kill Hitler. Are Amy and Rory currently immortal, or has Miracle Day already been resolved when the Doctor picked them up?

 

[MrJ]

More to the point, how are we meant to believe that when the Doctors visits Earth, this stuff has happened, this really does change everything, I dont see how the Earth will ever be the same again, even if they manage to undo the Miracle, for example if as hinted that the concept of money was at risk of callopse, people wont just go back to it, and even if they did society will need to totally rebuild.

I don't know how the world recovered after Children of Earth. With all the widespread government ordered child abduction, to turn them in to narcotics for aliens. Even after Jack did what he did and the 456 went away it seems like the governments of the civilized world said "Oh never mind. Sorry for kidnapping your kids. No hard feelings?"

I don't see how society could have come back after what happened. Even to the point where nobody seems to remember it even happened. In the episode where patients where being moved into the new medical concentration camp in Cardiff, their next of kin, who where being held back by the British Soldiers where shouting things about their rights and that they are tax payers. It just seemed odd to me that they would be surprised by the British Governments actions in a crises like this especially after the brawl between the British Army and the Cardiff citizens during the Children of Earth.

 

[wamdue]

Which I pointed out in the discussion thread for Let's Kill Hitler. Are Amy and Rory currently immortal, or has Miracle Day already been resolved when the Doctor picked them up?

that feels like something they would have mentioned.

 

[Guy Gardener]

There's a morphic field covering the Earth,. Only Human beings being effected under the proximity of that field are immortalesque. If you're shielded or out of range, then you're as normal as you're 'supposed' to be.

 

[wamdue]

There's a morphic field covering the Earth,. Only Human beings being effected under the proximity of that field are immortalesque. If you're shielded or out of range, then you're as normal as you're 'supposed' to be.

I suppose its possible that Amy & Rory were never on earth when the events of Miracle Day took place, Doctor Who isnt a show to give set dates.

Maybe however we just need to accpet that we might not be able to marry the two timelines anymore.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Or there's this half inch of time on Earth that whenever that TARDIS intersects and lands within, any human being walking out of the TARDIS into that morphic field will suddenly be immortal.

The doctor is not human and therefore like all the other non human (animals dude) creatures on he planet, will remain unaffected.

Now, I would say that the TARDIS would avoid such an unnatural, creepy stretch of Timespace like the plague, not that it avoids plague, but a point in time where human beings can't die would be bloody useful in some situations to use as a rallypoint from anything from a fallback during a badly lost war to a cosmetic surgery.

 

[The Wormhole]

Doctor Who isnt a show to give set dates.

Since Moffat took over, episodes set in modern day are usually around the same time the episode airs. Amy and Rory's wedding was the same day The Big Bang aired, and the Doctor's death certificate is dated the same day The Impossible Astronaut aired.

Now, I would say that the TARDIS would avoid such an unnatural, creepy stretch of Timespace like the plague, not that it avoids plague,

Well, the TARDIS did consider Jack's immortality to be so wrong that it fled to the end of the universe to try to avoid him, so maybe it's avoiding an Earth where the population is immortal for the same reason. This could be the very reason why the Doctor hasn't got involved in Miracle Day.

Well, that and Jack might not know the TARDIS phone number.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Well, that's how you repel the Doctor. If you're intending on doing something devious, you put up a couple morphic field generators either side of whatever you're up to, and you're safe of houses.

If the Daleks figured this out, it could explain how they conquered 10ths of the Galaxy in those Audio adventures they stared in all by themselves, without even Davros for company.