Toho is making their own Godzilla movies again!

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Kai "the spy", Dec 8, 2014.

  1. JD

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    It popped right up first thing on the homepage when I got on yesterday.
     
  2. Kai "the spy"

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    Well, German Netflix kinda buried it for some reason. Anyway, if you can't find it on the main page, you best use the search program.
     
  3. Christopher

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    I was surprised to see that Netflix listed it as a series titled simply Godzilla whose first "episode" was called Planet of the Monsters. I mean, I know it's a trilogy, but Netflix generally lists the installments of a movie series separately.
     
  4. cosmic mouse

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    Thanks. I'm not in Germany but the reason I couldnt find it right away is due to what Christopher said. It's listed as a TV series, or it appears that way.
     
  5. Christopher

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    I saw a review on IGN saying that this movie was made with video-game sensibilities. The reviewer presented that as a good thing, but I think it's why I didn't like the movie, because it was focused on plot mechanics and tactics and action without much in the way of character development or side stories.
     
  6. Nomad

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    I enjoyed the movie, keeping in mind that the many unanswered questions could be resolved later. My biggest gripe would be the way they chose to animate Godzilla. He seemed far too stiff and slow-moving, almost an angry-looking statue with little personality. (The same criticisms were leveled at Shin Godzilla.) This isn't suitmation; there shouldn't be any limitations as to how agile the character can be. But maybe this too will be addressed in the next installment.
     
  7. Christopher

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    The fact that a story has later installments is no excuse to fail to make the first installment strong enough in its own right. The first installment is the one that needs to win the audience over, after all, the one that establishes expectations about the rest. And here we have a story that's little more than a video game, all strategy and action performed by characters who are virtual ciphers. I don't see any reason to expect that to change in the sequels, since they're being made back-to-back by the same team.


    His size is the limitation. The bigger Godzilla gets, the more ridiculous it would be for him to be running and jumping around spryly. If anything, doing this in animation puts more pressure on the filmmakers to keep Godzilla's movements physically plausible, in order to avoid being perceived as cartoony.

    As for Shin, they weren't really trying for personality. They were going back to the tone of the 1954 original, where Godzilla was a pure force of nature, a nuclear disaster made flesh, and a problem for the human characters to solve rather than a character in its own right. PotM, in its way, is going even further in that direction, taking the original creator's description of Godzilla as "the Sacred Beast of the Apocalypse" and making it manifest. This Godzilla, unlike all the others, actually completed the Apocalypse, and is a force of pure embodied destruction on a planetary scale. I think giving something like that a personality would tame it too much. It should be something vast and impersonal and unknowable.
     
  8. Skipper

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    Each time they attacked Godzilla frontally, I had the urge to scream: "Why do you do it ??? It can't turn the head 180 degrees!!! Attack it from behind!!!"
     
  9. Christopher

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    That wouldn't work for Shin Godzilla... ;)
     
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  10. Skipper

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    Right! :guffaw:
    (and it wouldn't work for the
    "Real" Godzilla in the anime, too. It used its tail for some sort of energy attack, right?
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  11. Christopher

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    I think that was just the sheer atmospheric and seismic shock wave from a tail that huge striking the ground.
     
  12. Skipper

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    Do you know where I would land? Exactly on the opposite side of the planet where Godzilla was. I mean, how fast could it be?
     
  13. Christopher

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    Except the whole reason for the mission was to attack and kill Godzilla, which would be necessary if they wanted to recolonize Earth in the long term. They already knew that sharing the planet with Godzilla was not an option, since it was his 18-year worldwide rampage that drove them into space in the first place.

    And they did land their various forces at a safe distance from Godzilla. It was the Servums (the dragonlike flying creatures) that damaged their equipment and forced them to try to evacuate.
     
  14. Skipper

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    Yep :( I totally forgot about them.
     
  15. Nomad

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    I watched the movie subtitled the first time and plan to see it again tonight dubbed. That way I can pay more attention to the animation. Also, it's interesting to see how much the dubs vary from the subtitles.
     
  16. Christopher

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    I thought about doing that, but I just didn't enjoy the movie enough to want to bother.
     
  17. Nomad

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    Not too unexpected, but it was announced that there would be no sequel to Shin Godzilla. Also, Toho plans to produce a Godzilla film every year or two in their new shared universe that begins after the deal with Legendary ends. The article seems to indicate that we'll see movies with other kaiju as well.
     
  18. Christopher

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    I find it very unexpected. I thought the only reason they hadn't made a Shin sequel yet was because Legendary's deal gave them a monopoly on live-action Godzilla until 2020.
     
  19. Noname Given

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    So, their Godzilla v. King Kong remake will be the last U.S. based film? Too bad. I was hoping they'd have given their version of Godzilla a longer run considering they had the whole cave painting end credits sequence in Kong: Skull Island that showed versions of Mothra and King Ghidorah.
     
  20. Saul

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    Weird, Shin Godzilla was a massive hit in Japan and only a month or so ago they unveiled a new Godzilla statue in Tokyo replacing the old looking Godzilla of the past 50 years with the design from Shin Godzilla.