There was a MMPB a year later, and I strongly recommend the Simon & Schuster Audioworks production which was released at the same time as the hardcover!
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There was a MMPB a year later, and I strongly recommend the Simon & Schuster Audioworks production which was released at the same time as the hardcover!
not to mention the fact that there was no justifiction to have the anthology except to get fans and readers to shell out more money
if only there was a common story uniting the "missing" captains (without meeting each other, if that's a problem)... or even to have the actual conclusion for each novel in the friggin' novel
what we got instead was IMO an insult to readers...
if only there was a common story uniting the "missing" captains (without meeting each other, if that's a problem)... or even to have the actual conclusion for each novel in the friggin' novel
what we got instead was IMO an insult to readers...
^ Speaking only for myself, "Horn and Ivory" is NOT the "conclusion" to Demons of Air and Darkness, but is a separate story. Marco and I made a conscious choice to do that precisely because we didn't want the readers to feel ripped off. Demons... has a beginning, a middle, and an end, and that story ends at the end of the novel. It does end on a cliffhanger, yes, but that's not unusual for a serial narrative like the post-finale DS9 fiction in any case, and that cliffhanger solely relates to Kira.
Gonna have to disagree with you here, KRAD. While it's not unusual for serial stories to end on a cliffhanger. it is unusual (or at least somewhat inappropriate, at least IMO) to have the direct continuation of that story occur outside that same serial narrative.
While Horn and Ivory was a great little story, I take issue in the fact that I have to buy an entire anthology filled with material that does not interest me, just to read that.
If we take the DS9R series as an example, there was a SCE e-book that occurs right after Avatar, dealing with the Warp core situatoin IIRC. That was an example for how such stories should be handled. As a DS9 reader, I had the option to skip it alltogether (as it was outside the "core" arc), get the e-book, or buy the paperback reprint (which I did).
Not only was Horn and Ivory only available in What Lay Beyond, but it was (and still is) regarded as part of the main DS9R narrative (as written on the "previously on DS9" list in all DS9R novels...)
And that's why it was included in Twist of Faith, the first DS9R omnibus.
Yes, the Gateways thing was annoying. It didn't help that two of the contributors ignored a lot of the Gateways storyline and focused on moving their own series forward (Challenger and New Frontier). But, several years later, you don't have to buy What Lay Beyond to get Horn and Ivory. And like KRAD said, it is very much its own story, rather than the missing last few chapters of Demons of Air and Darkness.
It didn't insult me, but then I'm a completist. The only story which "required" the concluding volume was the TNG one. Which is why it was the meatiest section.
Is there an easy, recent jumping-on point for NF? I'm finding it difficult to buy the earlier books.
Unfortunately, not really, no.
The series does skip ahead three years after Stone And Anvil, so you can think of After The Fall as kind of a second pilot, and if you're trying to jump on late in the game that'd definitely be the one to buy. But I have a suspicion that you'd still be pretty confused.
All the old ones except apparently Martyr (#5) are available as e-books, now, though, if that helps any. And amazon.com has almost all of the old books used for very cheap, too (most are 1 cent!)
Ah, I must have missed that. I'd always figured if there was an answer it was in those books, I just never found it.
Thanks for the info! I'm in the UK, unfortunately, so I can't order from Amazon.com. I'll definitely look into the e-books, though.
The same is true of amazon.co.uk - here's an example:
Thanks for the info! I'm in the UK, unfortunately, so I can't order from Amazon.com. I'll definitely look into the e-books, though.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-li...olp_1?ie=UTF8&s=gateway&qid=1232661844&sr=8-1
Well, yeah, but when she did it it was within the contest of the lines, the scenes, and above all the character of Lwaxana. In Q-Squared, it just so happens to occur to various characters that this Klingon guy's name sounds like "Wharf." And they make a point of it. Over and over again. Takes you right out of the scene(s), and right out of the book.
I'm in the UK, unfortunately, so I can't order from Amazon.com.
Since when?
Is the HC of Stone and Anvil still available? Back when it first was released it came with a DVD that contained all the prior novels as e-books...
(At least, I think it did... I might confuse that with another Trek book... so, if someone would please confirm that?!?)
I believe that is correct.
Odd, I never once found it to be a distraction. Infact I never really thought about it outside context until now
and I don't see what everyone is whining about. Oh well. Speaking of I need to read that again...
I thought Horn and Ivory was a major stinker and definitely felt out of place in the collection.
That said, the rest of the collection is extremely high quality and you are getting so much reading material with that one..a single bad story really isn't a big deal.
That said, the rest of the collection is extremely high quality and you are getting so much reading material with that one..a single bad story really isn't a big deal.
^Really? To each their own, I guess, but I thought H&I was one of the best Kira stories ever done, canon or not.
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