Spoilers TNG: Takedown by John Jackson Miller Review Thread

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by Sho, Jan 20, 2015.

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Rate Takedown.

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  1. tomswift2002

    tomswift2002 Commodore Commodore

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    But even if the trouble had not reached DS9 yet (and considering that the Cardassians were part of the "Peace Talks"), as well as half the Federation under blackout, it is surprising that Starfleet did not raise the alert level across all its territory, as they had no idea where the next attack would occur! It was not just the Aventine attacking Federation subspace antennas, but ships from enemy nations as well (plus Riker had passed onto HQ that the fake Takedown virus would disrupt communications throughout the quadrant, wherever computers were in communication with one another---hence the silent running for Aventine).
     
  2. Markonian

    Markonian Commodore Commodore

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    Maybe The Missing takes place a day or so before the Takedown events begin?
     
  3. Enterpriserules

    Enterpriserules Commodore Commodore

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    Well Takedown takes place in about 2 weeks. So perhaps The Missing is the first 2 weeks of the month and Takedown is the last 2. I think that makes sense.
     
  4. Idran

    Idran Commodore Premium Member

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    Unfortunately. the historian's note in Takedown says explicitly that it's concurrent with The Missing, so that doesn't work unless you want to fudge that.
     
  5. Thrawn

    Thrawn Rear Admiral Premium Member

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    In the grand history of Star Trek, both canonical and LitVerse, that wouldn't even rank a 1.5 out of 10 on the fudge-o-meter.
     
  6. Idran

    Idran Commodore Premium Member

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    I'm honestly surprised you even put it that high. :P
     
  7. trash80

    trash80 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Seems a tendancy in Trek these days to squeeze so many galaxy shaking events into a short time period, must be pretty knackering being in the 24th century with endless doom looming over you :p
     
  8. Ben

    Ben Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    That was seriously one of the best ST books I've read in years. Just a fantastic job all around. Great mystery, the pacing was exciting, loved the payoff and resolution. It really read like a great episode (or two-parter I guess, for length...), too. Well done!!
     
  9. Klaus

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    Very nice, I liked it a lot. I agree that the lighter tone and different voice is a good thing, and I loved the idea at the end of Starfleet having to make a place like that. Makes perfect sense and ties a lot of things together.
     
  10. Enterprise1701

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    Well, I have no solution for the The Missing-Takedown conundrum, but I just re-checked The Light Fantastic. The first page of Chapter 3 says "Early November 2385 (ACE)". And if I've read the story correctly, Data saves Lal pretty quickly, so the main story of The Light Fantastic has got to be completely before Takedown.
     
  11. Idran

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    Travel time's always tricky to keep track of, I've been noticing in my own timelining efforts, especially for a "jumping around space" story like The Light Fantastic. But yeah, I'd agree on that point; I don't see it taking more than two or three weeks even taking travel time into account.
     
  12. Paul Weaver

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    Well that was a fun romp. I was suspecting a conundrum style situation, didn't expect the nth degree though until the machine Riker was plugged into was described.

    I assume that the enterprise doesn't have slipstream due to the geometry - sovereign class ships just can't take it.

    Not much chen in this book from memory which is a shame. Loved the continuity references to things like a singular destiny. And a C grade tzsnkethi? That's about the lowest of the low isn't it?! I guess noone wants peace.

    I loved the fact the rubbish ensign from aventine didn't save the day. I have noticed authors keep telling us how much worf has grown though. With the inevitable removal of picard from the enterprise in 2016, or 2021, I wonder if worf will slot straight in. Hopefully David Mack will not write Pixardms swan song, as I expect a crushing destruction of dozens of major and supporting characters in his wake.
     
  13. Klaus

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    :lol:

    To quote a shirt I saw Rod "the Mod" Stewart wear in concert back in the 80s:

    "Cruel, but fair." :p
     
  14. David Mack

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    As I won't be signing on to write any Star Trek novels for the next 18 months or so, it's unlikely I'll be writing any characters' "swan songs" anytime soon.
     
  15. Klaus

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    We'll not be getting any Picard departure until long after that... if ever lol. Given how long he took to get married, I'll give you six, two, and even that René is a captain and Mom's an admiral before Dad retires from the center seat. :lol:
     
  16. the_wildcard

    the_wildcard Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Agreed. I just finished this too. I was about to compare it to the recent line of Star Trek books such as the Fall. But along with the "Missing" from Una McCormack, it seems the books are returning to more stand-alone, episodic type of stores. So in hindsight this book was entertaining.
     
  17. Enterpriserules

    Enterpriserules Commodore Commodore

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    Loved getting to have John on Literary Treks for the latest episode! [​IMG]
     
  18. Mage

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    I'm getting the feeling we'll have a little bit of both. Events from previous novels will still effect the grand scheme of things, but not in a huge manner as the last few years have been.
     
  19. Paris

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    I just got it, and finished it in one sitting on the plane. Fantastic read! JJM gave a fun romp that's felt like a very good TNG movie or 2-part episode. bretorious was fun, and I loved that we got Aventine, Titan, and Enteprise all in the same story. It felt like a Destiny reunion. I liked that the passage of time was referenced by talking about some Aventine missions that we haven't seen. Funny to think that Ezri and Sam have been running the ship for about 6 years now. Overall, I thought it was outstanding. More trek books by JJM would be welcome :techman:
     
  20. Scout101

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    Fun, liked this one. And kept me guessing a while.

    Back cover writer needs to consider reading the book first, or at least asking about it. Rogue starfleet ships? Would have been good, but I counted just one. Can be ambiguous but shouldn't be a lie...

    Part of the end was contrived. Why meet up for 6 more target? And everyone had to be there? Made no sense other than to allow for scheming. As an actual alien plan? Doesn't fit.